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MY 17 or MY 18?

Discussion in 'VF Holden Commodore (2013 - 2017)' started by Calaber, Feb 18, 2018.

  1. Calaber

    Calaber Nil Bastardo Carborundum

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    HSV models raise the question though. The last of their cars were completed in 2018 and compliance plates would not be attached until they were completed. The picture above shows a 2018 model year. Perhaps the VF section should be 2013 to 2018.
     
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    I have always been under the impression that the MY designation is is the same till an update in the series is made. So there really should only be 2 MY dates, the start of production and the series II production start. Everything else is compliance plate dates which is no reflection of the MY?

    I could be totally wrong in this but I know for Euro cars and past experience I have had for instance MY12 2013 compliance plated cars and even MY12 2014 plated cars. Unless Australia has a different MY designation standard I am not sure. One of my cars was a MY02 plated 12/01 only due to the fact the MY for this brand starts in August of the previous year.
     
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    It’s very much a standard dealer ploy to advertise the first year registered as the “year” of the car.

    Every manufacturer does it differently. It’s only been the US makers that’ve been doing it since forever; first I noticed anyone doing it here was Subaru in the late 90’s. Before that, an “early build” VC Commodore was the same as a “late build” VC Commodore regardless of year, except there could’ve been any number of running changes across the model.
     
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    Build date, complienc date, rego date... the dealers will verbally state whatever will push their adjenda to sell/buy at the higherst/lowest price. But to advertise a vehicle that was built in October 2017, just before Australian manufacture ceased, as a 2018 vehicle is likely missleading and illegal. If you have seen such advertisements you should give ACCC and your state Consumer group a phone call and lodge a complaint as such behaviour needs to be jumped on.

    Advertising a later 2017 vehicle as a "MY18", which is more a bullshite marketing term, is i think unethical but manufacturers have played loose with model designators for many years so likely it is viewed as "the buyer should know better".
     
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    As HSV are classified as a manufacturer and they were still "making" cars into 2018, then perhaps MY18 is unique to them?
     
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    Assuming HSV didn't complete their build until 2018, their compliance label (inside passenger door opening) would show 2018; however; the body/option plate on the strut tower would show the actual month/year the car was built.
     
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    Compliance label date has no bearing on the MY. For VF, MY14/15 were 'Series 1' and MY16/17 were 'Series 2'. Each MY will have some level of specification level/change.
     
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    HSV ceased commodore based production on the 29/12/2017, with the last W1 (coincidentally , the same day mine was built too :)

    As I posted above, the jig for fitting the W1 side guard badge says 'MY18 W1', so who really knows...
     
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    The VIN tag has all the information relative to the build.
     
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    Agreed mate, that's the build date, but there is some conjecture as to the MY..
     
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    The change in MY usually applies to an 'updated' model.
    That would only really apply to HSV W1's and GTSR's.
     
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    HSV are not considered to be a "manufacturer". The cars are (were) built and complied as Holdens (e.g. the 6G1 VIN prefix is the same between Holden and HSV) and HSV are considered to be a conversion business.

    There are no MY18 Australian built cars. A VIN for example is 6G1FB5E52HL123456 where the 10th last digit (the H) indicates MY17. No locally built Holdens end in JL123456 (the J would indicate MY18).
     
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    Were there any MY13 VF's?
    Our VF Redline built Sept 13 is MY14.
     
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    IIRC - there was a MY13 for US models only - but this was VE. Latter VE's were MY12.5; then VF went straight to MY14 at SORP in May 2013.
     
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    Thanks mate.
    As an aside, I think we may have met in Adelaide? Did you go on a MSE cruise to Barrossa the day before the Holden Dream Cruise?
     
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    No MY13 Commodore. Went from MY12.5 to MY14 (so CL123456 to EL123456)
     
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    Sorry, no MSE for me - I was a tight arse and bought a V6 Calais V :)
     
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    Well to make it even more confusing, my Senator was built on the 29/12 (last day of Commodore based HSV production), yet on the HSV plate it's build #002. Their numbering system is all over the place..

    The only ones that were built in order were W427 and W1..
     
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    Pretty certain that W1 were not built in the order of their build plate.....
     
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    If you say so..However 275/275 rolled off the line 29/12/17.
     

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