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Discussion in 'VE Holden Commodore (2006 - 2013)' started by tariq, Mar 5, 2010.

  1. kuzman89

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    Well lucky we aren't all the same, some people want to be different. Get over it! Go start a V8 vs V6 HP thread if you must! No one cares for your measly opinion, considering you don't own a VE nor a V8 LOL
     
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    actually v8's are pretty good on the freeway i mean the maloo ls3 6.2litre won the Darwin to Melbourne eco change after all. beating all the 6's for best average fuel eco. where v8's fail is stop start traffic.
     
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    I never said it wasn't good on the freeway. And it didn't beat the V6's for best avg fuel from memory, it won because it had the biggest % margin difference from it's adr figure.
     
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    Who was that directed at?
     
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    What a crock of sh1t comment. Why/how do V8's hate traffic?

    Sorry to the OP for going off topic.
     
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    My new VE SS use less fuel than then the old BA XR6. New technology its a great thing. Gone are the days of the old thirsty 308. Thing are going to get better aswell.
     
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    me, lol.......
     
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    Can we not turn this into a V8 vs V6 thread ffs
     
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    I think his answer is buried in all this somewhere.
     
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    its been said bout 5 times lol.
     
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    thank you Andrew for your comments, i've ordered a K&N air filter.
     
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    Where i can get this twin turbo and what is the cost ?
     
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    the cost to set up a twin turbo system correctly 10k+
     
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    No worries tariq, im going to get the mace cai manifold insulators in next few weeks ill let you know if they are worth it.
     
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    yes that is at pussy throttle level, they dont tell you when booting what it is, my brother had a ba mk2 xr6 turbo, and it had the fuel to 100km thing on the dash, when he would put his foot flat it would go up to 29 litres /100km, so really if you want power out of a six its not worth it in the long run unless you have shares in shell or sum where, its cheaper to get an 8 (plus alot lot cheaper to get power) as some bloke stated it costs 10k for twin turbo set up on v6 commy, thats only way you can get real power out of these engines or supercharging them, and still that is only just keeping up with todays v8's and the power of them, and they are stock standard, im sure a stock 6.2 litre will use less fuel than a 315kw supercharged 6, im dead sure on this one
    and then there is reliability as well, a full blown 6 or a mild 8 honestly

    also off the subject a little, has any one actually looked into injector sizes, the vt supercharger injectors allow 370cc of flow and the ls1 v8 allows 250cc, i know there are 2 extra injectors in the v8, but look at this

    6x370=2220 flow over all 6 injectors
    8x250=2000 flow over all 8 injectors

    im not sure if this is right how they measure the amount of fuel flow is the cc part? im not sure, here is my source

    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/BOSCH-FUEL-I...ZAU_Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3357cb3857

    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/VS-VT-V6-SUP...ZAU_Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item5190db8edf
     
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    mine goes up to like 50L/100 when you flat foot it and press that little bit further, however it's only an estimation of what you would use if you continued accelerating at that rate, noting that accelerating is different to maintaining that speed, and also that acceleration of that magnitude is physically impossible to maintain in any such vehicle for more than a few seconds.
    Don't take what you see on those little gadgets too literally.

    Anyway, just my $0.02.
     
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    Most VE ss's are 200-220rwkw

    A SIDI VE is around 160-180rwkw. A tune will see it around 190-200rwkw, and use MUCH less fuel, and wiegh lighter.

    Drive in drive out s/c is $4000 - $6000, without any other mods, you will see 250rwkw EASY, though advisable to get better exhaust, cai etc. Im not saying the V6 is better btw, v8 has more potential, but it still costs more, by the time u s/c a v6, it comes out roughly the same or abit more expensive to a v8.
     
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    yea i just know what superchargers and fuel are like, just as bad as a v8 if you open them up, but all depends on what type of driving you plan on doing i spose

    why not just get a v8 supercharged lol, im sure that would blow the fuel eco out the window

    and also the sidi engine is 157 rwkw, and that is the 210 kw calais motor, 200 rwkw with just a tune is asking a little bit, that is 43 rwkw gain just from a tune, and they are pretty much the same weight as the sv8, as the sv8's goes better than a ss in 0-100 km because they weigh less as they dont have the luxury of a ss or clubsport, its writtin in the motor magizine or something, but there should be a thread started on v6 vs v8 honestly
     
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    I've seen a 173rwkw motor and a 182rwkw SIDI motor. This are fast from factory. Can show a dyno graph also. These are downtuned from 230kw, the camaro's are getting around 247kw with just a tune and filter change. It won't be faster, but they are 100kg or more lighter, so the gap is closing pretty fast when you take that into account.

    I'm not comparing it to an earlier model, because you get way too many variables, strictly VE.
     
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    detuned from 230kw, the sv6 is quoted at 210kw i think.. which is at is at the motor i assume...so we just need someone who can tuned these and unleash 20kw, add exhaust/extractors,cai and should be a nice incresae in power...the question how much would it affect fuel usage???
     

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