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New Walkinshaw W407 Package coming soon

Discussion in 'VF Holden Commodore (2013 - 2017)' started by ls3 304, Oct 24, 2016.

  1. OzTurtle

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    Ouch!!!! I thought they'd be competitive with Harrop for pricing. Stage 4 Harrop pack which is comparable and includes driveline warranty is $8,300 for 410KW.
     
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    Must be a **** cam or a **** tune. I got 70rwkw by camming my VF1. I know the LS3 cam is a bit more aggressive to start with but still...
     
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    What power and mods did you start with? and what power after? What cam specs did you use?

    Cheer!
     
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    I made 350rwhp or 260rwkw with 1 7/8 headers, twin 3", and VCM MAF OTR. With the same support mods (except now MAFless) I added a 232/234 .600 lift 114LSA cam with appropriate rods/springs/afm delete, with the same tuner and dyno I made 440rwhp or just shy of 330rwkw.
     
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    Has anyone got the Harope long tube headers, I am considering this set up just like to know if people like the setup going with OTR/Tune 2.5 manta catback system. Going with 2.5 over 3 because of the drone at low revs with 3" systems. Also I am not interested in the Walkinshaw W anything not paying for the name or their badges
     
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    The manta 2.5 sounds great with 4-1s. Mine are made by GM Motorsport, but will sound even better with true long tube headers too!
     
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    Ive got the W375 fitted to my series 2, what makes me laugh is the Walkinshaw shop in Perth are doing a Head and Cam package for around the 6.500k mark..
    What a joke 11k for full exhaust and a cam...
     
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    Jarp Surely You Jest

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    So what would a reasonable price to pay for a cam and tune package be?
     
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    SnowDoggyDogg 2ltr? = Only milk & juice

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    $4.5k mark if you've got the AFM junk that needs ripping out in the VF1 auto and less if you don't.

     
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    Hey Jarp;
    I paid $3,100 for cam, valve springs, pushrods, APR bolt, 3 bolt cam gear, MAFLESS conversion kit and tune.
     
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    Ive got the w375 on my redline : i was going to look into getting the 407 upgrade but after reading some of these posts about pricing (5 to 6k ) for the upgrade just to gain a slight bees d gain in performance they can shove that up their ar... ☺ ill just stick with the w375 set up
     
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    With cam upgrades, every shop varies and you get what you pay for. When I bought my ve ss at 49000 on odo , it had receipts for cam upgrade but didn't say on invoice the valvesprings used, exact cam specs, or brand of parts used , other than cam upgrade with comp custom cam// all this was done by a previous owner and a perth workshop , in all will say '' MADDINGTON'' now closed, I purchased the car at a car dealer

    Not long after ownership a valvespring broke-, upon further inspection, was discovered they were cheap single springs, still had std pushrods, and decided to pull the cam to see what it was and was a vcm 7 cam not a comp custom as on invoice!!

    . No other damage than the spring, so swapped all the rubbish out with duals and manly pushrods, put the 7 cam back in abd retune and car hasn't missed a beat since. Ask the shop you intend to use, what they are putting in. Do it right the first time, rather tha n opt for cheapest deal , as can cost a bomb fixing another shops rubbish.
    As for the walkinshaw cam, there will always be people who will just pay for the name and feel because its walkinshaw, its got to be the best.
    I personally think the price is alittle excessive for what you get.
     
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    Jared i all ready had the W375 package ($7000) then it was another $4800 to upgrade to the W407.
     
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    Its worth it. Trust me mate. It's heaps faster and sounds awesome..
     
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    Did it get much louder?

    Do you have a video of the idle?
     
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    I do daves8 but I don't know how to post it on here.
     
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    Hi there mate : ive got the 375 n they quoted $4800 for the upgrade : is it much louder than the 375 n what does it sound like :.im guessing its a bit more lumpy n louder with the cam : hows the performance over the 375
     
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    W375 Redline. You won't be disappointed. It hits 3500rpm and it's a animal.
     
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    So the retail price is +$11k over stock V8 price for bolt-ons, mid-20's cam and stickers, and you get a real ~320rwkw. Here's my thoughts having done a round or two in this rodeo:
    Not bad, with a stall will break 11s, but not really an effective practical upgrade for a daily commute. That cam shines mid range and has gobs of needless overlap. VCM 262 is mighty similar but does better torque earlier because of the earlier exhaust close.
    Old mate on the G8 board has similar cam but did a custom grind on a stock VVT base circle, and 111 ICL (115+4 LSA) - which means low stall and able to retain AFM for daily commute. With intake, headers, diff gears and stall, his PB is now 11.89.
    Point is his first stage ~60rwkw typical bolt-ons and custom tune to ~290rwkw was ~$3k or $50/kw. The next stage ~30rwkw from cam and valvetrain upgrade also cost $3k or $100/rwkw.
    Total expense DIY 320rwkw is ~$6k or $67/rwkw. Which is absolutely brilliant value. The W407 @ $11k is close to twice as expensive, to be expected, but of course you get to blame someone else if it blows up.
    It's the next stage that's a doozy step if you want tractable low RPM torque, daily smooth reliability and power in the premium output range of 340-400rwkw (boot badge 430-508 kw) expect to pay another $300/rwkw.
     
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    I do have a video daves8 but I don't know how to post it on here. What's your email address and I'll send it to ya.
     

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