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(over)lowering = worse handling.

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i suggest to you guys who think that having your car sitting dumpt'd on superlows or lower makes it handle better read this artice.

The One Unforgivable Sin - Overlowering

and just because you have (insert brand name here) coilovers doesnt mean that it will handle good when you have them set real low.

look, i have nothing against lowering for looks. but if you're thinking that having your car 60mm from the ground is good for your handling, then the only person you are kidding is yourself.
 

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low cars can handle you just have to correct the geometry

change rack hight
change rack length
change steering arm fulcrum
change lower arm length
change upper mount location
correct scrub radius
correct sai
correct castor


and this would be just the start
 

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i know but i wonder how many people on here would have done this....
 

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i would hope :hiding: they fitted the coilovers and sway bars etc
then went and had it all proffesionally aligned.

aftermarket suspension works far better (except hsv ve another time and place) than standard suspension.
but its designed for just below legal ride height so you cant drop it onto the ground and expect it to
handle the same as if it was installed as designed.

overlowering quite often causes other major issues in drive train as well as geaometry issues (all the way down to frame tension exceeding design) one e.g. is rear shafts on irs diffs cracking their cases cause there too long.

so i agree DONT OVERLOWER if your going to lower take five minutes and walk into a proffesional shop like.. fulcrum or pedders even, and ask the questions you want answered.....
 

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super lows made my car handle much better though :(
 

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There was episode of Top Gear where they all bought 80's BMW's. Hammonds had been lowered and put on some "hecktic rims". It had the handling properties of boat, it was sliding all over the place like nothing else, for his life he couldn't get it to hold steady.
I see all these guys driving around towing invisible caravans, my car's suspension is stock, and I'd bet anything I would out corner them easily.
 

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There was episode of Top Gear where they all bought 80's BMW's. Hammonds had been lowered and put on some "hecktic rims". It had the handling properties of boat, it was sliding all over the place like nothing else, for his life he couldn't get it to hold steady.
I see all these guys driving around towing invisible caravans, my car's suspension is stock, and I'd bet anything I would out corner them easily.

my car is lowerd and i bet it would beat yours

i keep up with v8's around town in a stock v6 with good suspension

edit: i only use 15"s aswell

edit2: as 15's is all i need 17's would see even better handeling
 

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and for people's genral intrest stiffer sway bars with stock springs would out handle lowerd springs with stock sway bars
 

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super lows arent nearly as bad as lowest setting on coilovers... hence within their design range...and prob ok with just toe and camber adjustment..
 
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