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OZTRACK, Anyone used them for a SSV, or SS?

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All of the above mate, getting all speakers changed this saturday. 9 speakers coming out, 13 going in.

Honestly i'm leaning towards OzTrack, they seem like a professional outfit. Just waiting on advice from Insurer to make sure my car would be compliant with NSW legislation. They are about $500.00 more than HPF
1 x ECU – reprogram – MAFLESS tune
1 x Dual-3″ “No-Drone” exhaust system, mandrel bent stainless steel
1 x HPF over the radiator cold air intake
1 x High flow reusable air filter
1 x Intake Air Temp patch harness
1 x Intake Air Temp sensor
1 x Before and after dyno graph
1 x All labour to fit / dynotune / test
320KW $3495.00

the same more than KPM
KH01 Entry Level Package: Increase to 320 Fwkw
KPM SLC 2.5 Inch Cat Exhaust Back System
Stainless Steel Performance Exhaust System
KPM Cold Air Induction System
KPM ECU Performance Reprogram
Cost: $3495.00

But they get more power around 350KW

OTR is under question also DB reading from exhaust, but yeah Steven is definitely the front runner.

Cheers

I left the Maf in place but Steve did a Mafless tune.
If you go KPM who is doing it? Or are you going to Adelaide?
I'm just about to get the Stereo done as well http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/ve-holden-commodore-2006/178610-focal-kevlar-series-speaker-upgrade.html
 

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I left the Maf in place but Steve did a Mafless tune.
If you go KPM who is doing it? Or are you going to Adelaide?
I'm just about to get the Stereo done as well http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/ve-holden-commodore-2006/178610-focal-kevlar-series-speaker-upgrade.html

You see, thats why OzTrack are at the top of the list, HPF are in Melbourne and KPM are in Adelaide as you know.
easier to go out the western Sydney than into another state.

As for the stereo,
6" Splits in the front and rear doors (Pioneer)
6" 3 ways in the rear parcel shelf (Pioneer) if they fit or will go 8" or 6x9 if they can fit
Centre speaker waiting till its gets pulled out and will replace with same size I think its a 3.5" not sure if a 3" or 4" will get in there.
Digital Amp (Pioneer)
Mono Amp (MTX)
JL 12" in ported box
Dynamat the doors and rear shelf (only were speakers go to stop rattle) not full coverage.

Dave
 

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One thing to consider as far as your insurance goes, I let mine know about the cat back, but havent asked them about the OTR, but I took the stock intake off, put the VCM/KPM OTR on and left the MAF in place, but got a Mafless tune. So if I have a prang I can always get it towed, take the OTR off, put the stocky back on and none the wiser. The VE Maff isn't that restrictive, so I left it in place. If I got really paranoid I could flash the original tune back in, but I highly doubt that the insurer is going to plug in and see what tune I have. It took about 2 hours to put the OTR on, and now that I have done it I reckon I could change it back in less than that. And yes they reckon you can do it in twenty minutes, but they do it all the time so I have no doubts that they can.
 

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One thing to consider as far as your insurance goes, I let mine know about the cat back, but havent asked them about the OTR, but I took the stock intake off, put the VCM/KPM OTR on and left the MAF in place, but got a Mafless tune. So if I have a prang I can always get it towed, take the OTR off, put the stocky back on and none the wiser. The VE Maff isn't that restrictive, so I left it in place. If I got really paranoid I could flash the original tune back in, but I highly doubt that the insurer is going to plug in and see what tune I have. It took about 2 hours to put the OTR on, and now that I have done it I reckon I could change it back in less than that. And yes they reckon you can do it in twenty minutes, but they do it all the time so I have no doubts that they can.

Im with NRMA, and they will cover any modes so long as the car is road legal and able to obtain registration hence the wait on the OTR, tune is fine, exhaust depends on noise generated and 3-3500 revs.
 

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Im with NRMA, and they will cover any modes so long as the car is road legal and able to obtain registration hence the wait on the OTR, tune is fine, exhaust depends on noise generated and 3-3500 revs.

Well just a little heads up, and it has been covered on this forum quite a lot, but sometimes it is hard to find what you want at first, but removeng the MAF sensor is illegal in NSW, and Adelaide that I know of, that is why KPM keep it in place, but having said that, you can like I said, keep it in place and Steve can still give you the same tune(Mafless) and but the dus OTR is not made to retain the MAF. Thats why I went VCM/KPM but still got the Oz track tune. You don't have to go one package or the other, you can get the VCM Otr on ebay, vcm and KPM OTR's are the same thing, and I'm sure Steve at Oz track can put it on and do the rest of the pack(exhaust and tune), or put in on yourself and then get then take it to Steve.
And as far as the exhaust Decibels go, no one is going to tell you that there exhaust is louder than that, if you tell them that it needs to be under that. the only way to really know is to put it on and measure it!!! Bang for your buck I would go with the Oztrack exhaust....But I wanted the KPM but money wasn't an issue.
Remember you are the customer and everyone has a product to sell, but you can mix an match, Oztrack isn't going to say get the whole shebang or don't bother. :)
 

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Well just a little heads up, and it has been covered on this forum quite a lot, but sometimes it is hard to find what you want at first, but removeng the MAF sensor is illegal in NSW, and Adelaide that I know of

This is true, been researching corvette tuning in the states and they get past the problem by installing a larger diameter mass airflow sensor to compensate for the tune. Going to put it to OzTrack and see what they think. Im confident I can source a part from a GM specialist in the USA without to much bother.

as far as the exhaust Decibels go, no one is going to tell you that there exhaust is louder than that, if you tell them that it needs to be under that. the only way to really know is to put it on and measure it!!!

I'm across this issue, logged onto legislation.nsw.gov today and looked at this. Its seems very discretionary but scientific at the same time. This one could be a bit hit and miss, so far as i can tell if i ask them and they say it's fine, I can appeal any judgment applied based on information and advise given to me at the time by the product supplier, as they are in the position of knowledge and of which i based my decision to proceed. Its a bit loose but at the end of the day if you want it you will get it.

put in on yourself and then get then take it to Steve

Truth be told my brother is a mechanic and has his own business in Brisbane, he could do all the work then take it to steve, he doesn't tune, same issue though. He is in another state. :( lol.

Thanks for your comment, appreciate your insights
 

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You would have none of these issuses with a good remote maf tune and OTR to suit and any good exhaust shop can sell and fit a system to match your requirements. The bonus you would save a bunch of money and you would achieve very similar results and the tune will be better suited to your driving style its got to be a win win.

Read up this is how alot of tunning is done in the USA it has started to filter down to us and I often see a lot cars at the drag strip running remote tunes from the USA.
 

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This is true, been researching corvette tuning in the states and they get past the problem by installing a larger diameter mass airflow sensor to compensate for the tune. Going to put it to OzTrack and see what they think. Im confident I can source a part from a GM specialist in the USA without to much bother.



I'm across this issue, logged onto legislation.nsw.gov today and looked at this. Its seems very discretionary but scientific at the same time. This one could be a bit hit and miss, so far as i can tell if i ask them and they say it's fine, I can appeal any judgment applied based on information and advise given to me at the time by the product supplier, as they are in the position of knowledge and of which i based my decision to proceed. Its a bit loose but at the end of the day if you want it you will get it.



Truth be told my brother is a mechanic and has his own business in Brisbane, he could do all the work then take it to steve, he doesn't tune, same issue though. He is in another state. :( lol.

Thanks for your comment, appreciate your insights

My point was that the stock Maf is not much of a restriction ie, if you remove it and put a straight bit of pipe in and then hit the dyno or the quarter mile the difference between the 2 set ups if they were to have the same tune ie Maf in place but mafless tune or maf taken out mafless tune, would be very nominal, and to the average person it would make no differeenc. maybe talk to your brother about this he should be able to explain it better.
Nobody in there right mind would put a bigger diameter Maf sensor in place and then do A mafless tune.
You really don't need to be a mechanic to put an OTR on, I'm an electrician and I managed to do it pretty easily and quickly, in fact you don't have to be a mechanic to change the exhaust, but for the amount of time & effort it takes I'd rather pay the specialists.
I would suggest, not just for you but for anyone to see what the restriction is, that you grab a screw driver, loosen the two hose clamps, pop the rubber/plastic intake pipes off and look into the Maf tube/cylinder and see what sort of a restriction it is.With the OTR it is directly in line with the throttle body, and isn't much more of a restriction than the throttle valve itself.
As far as the exhaust goes and insurance, realistically, your exhaust could be loud as hell, but as long as it has cats and appropriate mufflers in place the insurance company couldn't knock back your insurance based on the decibel level of the exhaust after a crash unless you have the yellow defect sticker on the window at the time :) I mean if the car is ridden off, they would have to start the car then test the level, and then prove that it was too loud before the crash :)
 

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You would have none of these issuses with a good remote maf tune and OTR to suit and any good exhaust shop can sell and fit a system to match your requirements. The bonus you would save a bunch of money and you would achieve very similar results and the tune will be better suited to your driving style its got to be a win win.

Read up this is how alot of tunning is done in the USA it has started to filter down to us and I often see a lot cars at the drag strip running remote tunes from the USA.

I agree as this is what I did, except chose Mafless tune, but retaining the Maf. Basically for me as well the reason I left the Maf in place was that I didn't have to change anything just flash the remote tune in, Otherwise I would have had to put A pipe where the Maf was and then wire in and mount a temp sensor(ICC i think) Steve at OZtrack when doing Mafless tune and leaving the Maf sensor in place uses the temp sensor that is in the Mafsensor, the difference is that the Tune uses absolute manifold pressure(which I believe is what you want) instead of the airflow back up the intake in the MAF sensor. I only get home for 1 week in 5 to drive the car so just wanted to get home flash in the remote tune and then hit the road.
 

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Iv recently had my ss tuned by OZTRACK and made 270.08rwk. Mods i have are 3" x-force exhaust, outlaw 3" cats, Pacemaker 1 7/8 headers ceramic coated and growler CAI (not even OTR) I would have to recomend the work done by steve at OZTRACK to anyone.
 
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