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Discussion in 'VN - VP Holden Commodore (1988 - 1993)' started by sydd131, Apr 22, 2009.

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    well,i got a vn calais with the 6, and the engine has 290,000km's on it, i dunno what to do with it, i want it to move, real damn well, and i dont care if it chews juice, so should i rebuild the current engine, but with bigger and/or better pistons, and then put in a stage 3 cam, and yella terra roller rockers and some other little bits n peices, or should i buy an engine from Home Page or, should i get a reco engine for $1000 and do it up? moneys not really an object. any suggestions?
     
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    if money isn't an issue get a supercharger
     
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    something i left out, im 16.. lolol dont think im stupid for wanting to spend an assload of cash on a vn, when i hit my p's, im apparently not even allowed an exhaust system, so i'd rather do up the inside of my engine, and when i get pulled up the cops dont know unless they rip my engine apart. so anything i can put INSIDE my engine or that wont make cops suss that its illegal for me.
     
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    okay, noones got suggestions...can somebody tell me if the following is worth $4,590?
    Reco Stage 3 Engine
    New ACL pistons
    Moly rings
    Holden Head gaskets
    ACL bearings
    Rollmaster timing set
    SRE oil pump mod's
    SRE Hyd Roller cam
    Specs vary with each Car Call..........
    Ported VN /VR Style
    165 KW Heads
    New Crow Performance Valve Springs,New Chrome Moly Retainers ,
    Valve Stem Seals
    New Kline Bronze Valve Guides (honed)
    Block fully machined
    Bored 030 / 040
    New cam Bearings
    New Welsh plugs
    Yella Terra roller rockers
    Crow Pushrods .080
    Etc
    Fully assembled Long
     
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    sounds alrite, im in the same boat...only 17...if i had as much cash as u do then i would do something along the lines of that list
     
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    btw are you a drug dealer?
     
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    -.- i didnt think my question was that complicated..
     
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    oh wicked, got a reply lolol yeah i'll prob do it, noooo, i dont deal drugs ;)
     
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    how did u find 5k when ur 16. i was happy with 50 bucks back then
     
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    lolol, cause ima very special boy :p nah, my job, been saving for a while, and i'll need more then five grand too, lol need a manual box :(
     
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    thats a fairly good deal there mate if u can pick it up for that. should have a bit of poke with that engine.

    only things will be, pending the specs on your cam youll need a stally to suit, and if u get a half smart cop, he will notice the idle because of the cam.

    and the fact that youl NEED an exhaust system to run with that engine, you can jam it full of mufflers to quiten it down, but then ull loose performance ;).

    your best bet, would be to just stick to basic things, service the car, fit a high flow air filter and a CAI, put some sports leads on it, new plugs, new fuel filter, perhaps some yella terra rockers, and some 3.7 diff gears. all up that should cost you around the 2,400ish mark. and have plenty of poke for a 16 year old.
     
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    levymetal TURN MY HEADPHONES UP

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    a cop will probably notice that the engine is not stock. it's not hard to tell :p. it is illegal and you probably will end up getting caught and you'll be required to take the engine out. you'll get about $500 for it. and there will be no point in keeping it, because, you'll probably only get about the same performance out of it as a stock 304 (not fast). you will get over it very quickly, and you'll also miss your 5k. if you want speed... just wait... you'll be 21 in no time, then go out and get yourself a 304 and supercharge the **** out of it. will have three times as much power as that 5k combo, and you can get the complete supercharger kit for 6k. much better way to spend your money!
     
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    *waits for foamy's suggestion*

    I say go for it, i would actually like to see someone do a quickish v6, nice lumpy came like a wade 1114a, shiftkitted and hi stalled auto :D (dont know how quick that would be?) lol
     
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    i might just jump into it and go for that 4 and a half grand engine, if i do get caught by cops for it, i'll just say sorry mate, thought it was stock, baught it second hand. then i'll drive my dads vx, and over time do the vn up a bit more, i'd be happy with a supercharged 6, so im not fussed if the cops do pull me up. they can suck my left nut :p
     

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    okay well i'll clear myself up a bit, explain in full. if i get this engine:

    Reco Stage 3 Engine
    New ACL pistons
    Moly rings
    Holden Head gaskets
    ACL bearings
    Rollmaster timing set
    SRE oil pump mod's
    SRE Hyd Roller cam
    Specs vary with each Car Call..........
    Ported VN /VR Style
    165 KW Heads
    New Crow Performance Valve Springs,New Chrome Moly Retainers ,
    Valve Stem Seals
    New Kline Bronze Valve Guides (honed)
    Block fully machined
    Bored 030 / 040
    New cam Bearings
    New Welsh plugs
    Yella Terra roller rockers
    Crow Pushrods .080
    Etc
    Fully assembled Long

    AND THENN. spend some MORE F*CKIN MONEY >.< on a manual gear box, im estimating around 6-7k. now all i want it to do for te next 6 years (till i get my full license as i needa hold license till im 22) is leave all the other p platers for **** :) and then when im 22, i'll figure out what to do wth it after that. but for that engine to function well, will i need anything else for it? should i get lsd? and yeah, i might miss that $5,000. untill 5 months later when i got another 10 sitting in the bank, i got 4k coming in every 3 months, so im pretty set for cash. however i will be pissed if i end up blowing up that $4600 6cyl engine. so anything to avoid blowing it up, and to make it go harder, and to make it less noticable, but keep performance, is what i want. (yeah im a picky bastard :D)
     
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    is leave all the other p platers for **** :)

    what you should do is get an exel if your gonna drive like that give p platers a bad name and commodore drives:bang:
     
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    do you think the cop's just going to say "ah, that's fine then, hope you have a lovely day :)". you'll still get fined, lose points, lose your licence for 3 months. then you'll have the vn sitting there doing nothing. and you say you'll be happy with a supercharged engine - that's all fair and well, but do you know the comp of your new engine? if it's high comp (which it probably will be) you'll be wasting your time with a supercharger later on. you'd want to rebuild the engine again, with lower comp, so to accommodate for more boost. this is all wasted $$$ even if you do 'get 4k in every 3 months'.


    this is the EXACT reason why you're banned from driving a high powered vehicle, because of your stupid mentality combined with virtually no real driving experience. whatever makes you feel like your dick is bigger than it really is though. imagine how awesome you're going to be by leaving other p platers for ****, they're all going to want to be just like you. in a wheelchair braindamaged within 3 months. and then when everyone's off their p's, they'll all be driving VY clubsports. except for you, you'll have a vn v6 and no money.
     
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    Levymetal are you saying you would have the performance of a stock 5ltr with just a CAI and Yella Terra roller rockers? If so I'm buying some tomorrow.

    Some responsible advice for a fellow petrol head about to get his P's is make the car handle, brake and safer first before you make it go faster if you have that sort of money.
     
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    true better to be alive at the end of ya p plates then take in some good hp numbers rather than end up dead in the first year :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

    thats not to say you cant drive it just that untill you have reasonable ability in most conditions its best to no ya car inside and out sideways and straight i still get a high hart rate from time to time from my race v6 its steeped out sideways at 160 trust me not good lol

    its the same as what i tell first time racers just because it seems fast and its in a straight line dont meen you wont roll a car safety first take it easy your life aint worth your ego
     

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