It is a pity the Police force in Vic has become a business. Police like this are a rare breed. We should be celebrating this guy for having the deceny to offer people the second chance to not screw up again. It seems people liek this are punished harder than the ones who are corrupt and take bribes etc. It is a complete ****ing joke, it also doesn't help that the current commisioner is a fat bitch who really needs to get laid. For me, I support this officer 110% and we need more like this. Thanks to the Vic Police commissioner for proving that all you care about is raising revenue. What a ****ing joke.
woohhh...Hold Up! Firstly, its wasnt just the fines it was also other behaviour related matters aswell... secondly... He was being dodgy! If something sucks, you fight it properly, follow appropraite channels or your leave. You dont do a dodgy and expect to get away with it. Its simple. He was breaking the law and he got busted. He deserves it... so what, people shouldnt be speeding. Cant drive the speed limit? Dont drive. We have a second chance system... its called "points"... you get 12. On a 3 point fine system, thats 4 chances. How many do you really need? aZk.
This sort of thing is common from what I have heard, I know plenty of people who have been booked and got a nice copper who would record them going at a lower speed. Its not uncommon for cops that may book you for doing 17k over to decrease it to 15k and under if you are polite and have a good attitude. Well thats what I have been told from family and friends anyway, I wouldn't know I haven't been booked :angel: I think this is pretty pathetic and petty and they should just stfu and let the copper get on with his job.
The behaviour they are investigating is him showing discretion mate. All he did was reduce the speed on the infringement notice, is that really that bad? He wasn't completely letting people off. He is being suspended because the government lost a little bit of revenue.
Sitting around with a speed gun isn't what the police should be spending all their time on anyway. He is booking people and fining them and giving them a chance to grow up and act accordingly. He should be out there doing what police should. Now its one less policeman on the road for the community. On a saturday night in adelaide, sometimes the large police station near us has just 2 cars patrolling an area that runs about 50km in one direction, whilst 7 or 8 cars are sitting at an RBT. If a place is robbed or people get held up or someone is stabbed, they have to wait because the two patrol cars are so far behind whilst a 7 or 8 cars are sitting doing random breath testing. I have nothing wrong with RBT's, but the fact of the matter is.. The police can justify having 7-8 cars on to do an RBT which will raise revenue, but they can only justify 2 patrol cars to protect and serve the rest of the community? The Police Force is a business now and its a load of crap.
the more rbt/rdt the better! the amount of carnage on the streets from ****ing drunks is shocking! since when did doing 10km over the "limit" become a greater crime then a drunk running a light and killing someone?, the amount of times i have seen people leave a pub driving drunk, then returning the next week to brag about how they wrote their car off the previous weekend omg they better hope they dont hurt anyone i care about, or they will be 6ft under thats for sure.
Ive had nice cops like that, and ive allso had some absolute pricks that ****ed me over any which way they could. Its all down to the officer and your attitude.
I agree and as I said, nothing against RBT's here. But it shows the importance of revenue when they can justify 7-8 cars on an RBT but only 2 cars patrolling from outside the CBD all the way to gumeracha in the hills on some nights.
i got done for my arm out the window yes my arm was a 112 dollar fine and lost three demerit points and all i was doing is pointing to tell my mate who was driving behind me to turn right wtf the cop was a ******** than when he saw my license p plater his face straight away changed starts looking up at my car his like were are your p plates im like im on P 2's it says it on the license i dont need p plates and than his like oh really and he went to ask another cop now tell me that wasnt ****ed.
The full facts are yet to come out so saying that he was or wasn't doing anything is a bit premature. In general terms discression is/was/and (hopefully) allways will be part of policing. I'm sure there is something more to this that hasn't been made public as yet. Reaper
Reaper, if it turns out that all he did was use "his discretionary powers" then I think it is a joke. If he was taking bribes etc, different story. How the story is written, it is plain wrong to suspend this guy. Hoon laws allow discretionary powers, yet when it comes to raising revenue for giving someone a chance on keeping their licence, god forbid it is all wrong. As I said, it is a shame the police force has become a business.
Well that would depend on the severity of his actions wouldn't it? If he's shaving off a km or two on the fines, which is common practice perhaps. But if he's letting people go when they are over 10kmh beyond the fine he gives them, then he clearly needs to be stopped. askwazere is right, we have a 2nd chance system in points, if you speed and get caught, you deserve to lose the appropriate amount, everyone knows the laws. I lost my license a while ago, I learnt my lesson, and I never go even 1 or 2km over the speed limit these days, its just not worth the risk. Getting caught at a speed and getting a smaller fine and less points won't teach many people on our roads, all it does is give them more opportunity to continue their ways.
For sure - I totally agree. Can't help thinking there is a lot more behind this than what is public at this stage. Reaper
Did you watch the news report? The area where all the fines were let off were down quite a steep descent. Seriously, I cant believe how many people are becoming conditioned to the media hype lol. While I do not condone speeding, since when is it a primary factor in car accidents? It is rarely speed itself that is the cause of an accident, less than 2 weeks ago it was proven that driver concentration IS the biggest factor of all accidents.
Sorry, the point I am trying to make, is there are far more important things to worry about than an officer using his discretion. It seems it is getting to the stage where speeding is a bigger concern to the government and police than people who are beating the **** out of others, people who are stealing ****, people who rape women etc.
i thought police werent allowed to set up radar at bottom of a steep decent, Maybe it depends on state.
No I havent watched the media report, I live in NSW. I only read what you posted. And there is nothing said about the severity of the let-offs. My post was pertaining to larger let-offs, not minor infractions. And yes you're right speeding isn't attributed to most accidents, but it does increase it's severity should there be an accident. Not only is it the speeding drivers responsibility to concentrate, but also those around them that could get in the way and cause an accident. Irrespective of the obvious cash loss to govt, which is clearly the main driver behind the suspension. You break the law, you cop the punishment, irrespective of how insignificant it may appear to you or I. When cops contravene this, it sends out the wrong message to many road users (obviously depending on the size of the let off). I feel sorry for the bloke if he got caught shaving off 1 or 2kms, but not if he was doing 10+ regularly. In NSW if the radar was placed on a bend or hill it is grounds for immediate appeal
Actually it clearly states that officer discretion may be used. Since when has this discretion been thrown out the door? It seems that there is no issue allowing full officer discretion when it comes to hooning or adds extra $ to the Police bank account, but when its removing $ from that police account its all wrong.
That depends if the officer's discretion is deemed reasonable or not. ie a guy 45kmh over the limit but getting a warning is clearly not reasonable discretion. Do you know how much the infractions were reduced by? Or just because a cop was being a perceived good samaritan because he let off a few people without knowing the full details, its all obviously just a huge grab for cash? Police are there to uphold the law, if they do not do it within reasonable margins then it sends out the wrong message to the public. I'm not making any judgement until all the full details are released. I'm just saying if he just wasn't shaving off a nominal amount of km's, then he deserves to be suspended.
