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Discussion in 'VR - VS Holden Commodore (1993 - 1997)' started by Micka 84, Nov 28, 2012.

  1. Micka 84

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    Hi all just wondering if any one knows how to rewire a power antenna for a vr ss as the original stereo has been removed along with the module. i want to rewire it bypass all the junk straight to the up and down switches in the console?????
     
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    Really depends on the antenna your using... As you said, standard they have a separate control module in the VR which provides the triger signal to go up or down.
    The only aftermarket one I have installed did not have this unit it was a 4 wire setup 1 to earth (goes to base of mast), 1 supply (to battery via fuse) & 2 trigger wires for up or down, requiring a momentary supply of positive current to one these. If you can still buy an aftermarket one like this then it would be very easy to hook it to the switches via the 2 trigger wires. Not sure about wiring a standard one though, as I think they require the module?
     
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    Smartarse fact of the day: antennas receive and transmit RF energy, aerials only revive :)
     
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    You mean receive prehaps?

    I have removed my aerial (for V SPEC ;-P) completely & I am going to fit a hidden amplifed unit filling in the ugly hole in the front guard, this could be an alternative? But then prehaps they wouldn't be powerful enough for reception over there (assuming your in Auzzie)?
     
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    sorry to take up your time..... but I found this for the two coloured wires and
    black is earth to frame of car...negative

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    also watch your mouth we are trying to help...would you prefer no one answering your thread
     
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    What i mean by standard is ORIGINAL parts! It has original power antenna and the original stereo has been removed along with the module which is usually located above the ecu on passengers side kick panel! I pulled the power antenna out today it has a BLACK wire located at the base of the mast, a white, red and an extra black wire! the red and white connected to direct 12 volt power and the extra black wire connected to the earth not the earth wire located at the base, makes the antenna go up!!! then just the red wire connected direct to 12V power and the extra black wire earthed makes the antenna retract!!! this diagram is useless to me as the original stereo has been removed as i mentioned along with the module thanks any way markovr! i need to hook the antenna up direct to the switches, can this be done with the original power antenna minus the original stereo and module???
     
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    All up the power antenna has FOUR wires 2 black a white and red!
     
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    So if i understand correctly, it takes the red,white, and black wire to make it go up and only the red and black to take it down? Is this correct
     
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    Absolutley SPOT ON!
     
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    Well then with that info connecting it should be easy!
    Earth your black wire permanantly, remove the 2 switches (they are momentary switches correct me if wrong?) on one side of both switch circuts provide postive power (track back to the removed control units supply if you can & use that) the other side of the switch circut connect red & white to the up switch & red only to the down switch.... Done.
     
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    there is only one red wire not two so this is useless to me! obviously u havent read previous posts properly! it cant have a permant supply as it makes the antenna retact again as soon as u let go of the up button if there is a permanent power supply!! iv tried, tried and retried. im pretty sure now the original eurovox power antenna wont work without the module! either that or i need to put a relay in sumwhere but no idea how to do this!!! it needs a neuteral postive and a netural negative on the swithes which they dont have. both switches only have a netural power supply one being blue on the up switch and one being white on the down switch!
     
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    Mate, you seriously need to chill the fack out. other wise people are likely to tell you to jam that arial somewhere that the sun doesnt shine from. here is what you need to do. basically it will involve 2 relays. one for up and one for down. you need a constant 12v source to put power into one side of the relay and to power your switches use your ignition power. connect the red wire to one relay and the white to the other relay. have a look at your relay. pin 30 is where you want to connect the 12v constant feed. and pin 87 is where you want the red wire and the white wire to go. now comes the most difficult part. on the up switch, attach your ignition power to one side and have 2 wires coming out the other side. attach each of these wires to the trigger pin on each relay. this will allow you to energise both relays at once thus allowing your arial to go up. with the other direction, down, it gets a little bit more complicated. now you will need to go to your local electronics store and spend 30 or 40 cents if that on a 12v rated DIODE. This will prevent back flow of electricity when you push the down button. this needs to go where the red relay wire connects to the switch. make sure you put it the right way around other wise it will stop the power getting to the relay and mean you will have 2 down buttons. you need to once again connect your ignition to one side and have a single wire coming out of the other. then connect this wire to the red wire relay. this way you can put it down just a rough sketch i did. will do a better one after work HP0003.jpg
     
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    Thanks very much for ur info its greatly appreciated... :spot on: but i am chilled the fack out. i hate computers its like txting on a mobile phone some people just dont know how to take things half the time... 80% of the time people percieve things the wrong way as it is much different talking in person! I DONT appreciate the rude remarks as they are offenive as im just trying to explain things.... SMILE people it might make ur day and others too many thanks!
     
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    when you end each sentence! with! an! exclamation mark! it will be percieved as hostile my some. did you understand what i wrote because it was rushed as i am stuck at work with nothing to do
     
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    Yes i kind of understand what you are saying. Im a bit illiterate when it comes to electronics and modern technology. Aussie4life11 the last thing i want to do is offend anyone in any shape or form. Sorry to anyone who took offence. :embarrass
     
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    no worries mate. its all good. so did you understand my diagram before?

    EDIT: sorry reading while i am working. i will do a better diagram up after work or over the weekend. if you do attempt it, pm me if ya get stuck as i can talk ya thru it
     
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    Yes the basics of it i have a friend who is really good with this kind of thing so im sure he will understand it fully
     
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    ok well once i get the better diagram organised, he should have no problem with it
     
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    I have just re read your posts & from what you have said what I sugested would work if the switches are momentary are they or not? You dont answer the question asked so your rather hard to help. You dont need 2 red wires join the red wire to both switches... Power would not be connected all the time only when you pressed the switch... If I had any paitence left I'd draw you a diagram, but I give up, good luck though.
     
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    but the problem with the way you said it is that you havent overcome the problem of back flowing current. that is why i added the relays and diodes to the diagram. with the way you said it, it would be fine to have it going up but as soon as he tries to put it back down, it would be a case of putting power to red wire. it would then flow up to where red and white are connected to the up switch and then flow down the white wire thus causing the arial to go up. hence why i included a diode to prevent this from happening. putting a relay in place also prevents the switches from being burnt out due to the high power draw a motor has. not picking a fight with you or anything. your basic idea works to some extent, however there are flaws with that method. i just expanded on your method.
     

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