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O.k. I know I sound stupid, but is there any benifit to running an intercooler on a NA engine to lower the intake temps?, or does the air flow depend on the turbo blowering the air through it?

Foamy, what you say all makes sense to me, will be keeping an eye on this
 

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Nitrous is illegal in street setups - at least in Qld. As far as I know, theres no legal issue with oxy.
 

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I'm investigating this whole Ford manifold onto Holden engine tech, could kill a few birds with half a stone. Since they are narrower (don't know how much yet) and that gives room for spacers. But stainless steel valley oil cover, I might be starting that tomorrow.

P.S. Tsunamix the toll truck just left
 

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Just chuck dry ice in the air box....
 

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Except dry ice devolves into CO2 gas, which is a filler in combustion, not used, so it just takes up space that oxygen or fuel could be using.

Hey Foamy - Any chance you could slam me the bag number so I can trace it ? It's supposed to be overnight but didn't arrive.

Cheers
 

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seen a guy advertising oil splash shields on ebay. can make em to suit what ever engine you want. has definitly been done before.

i still think you need to get the intake HPC coated. will reduce the temps even more with all the other suggested mods.

remote mounting the thermostat is definitly a interesting idea

Funnily enough I have one of them - nice and shinny - Bought it off a HRT mechanic who was experimenting with it but never quite made it on the car. Gimme a yell if you are interested.

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You know how Oxygen from an oxy bottle is freezing cold as it comes out of the taps, I've often wondered if shooting Oxy dtraight into a manifold would give a 2 fold increase in power, indiretcly through intercooling and directly through a better / hotter burn because of higher o2 content.....

lets think about this for a moment, when using N20, your injecting a substance that is only 33% oxygen in a liquid form as well as all the extra fuel that is needed to control the combustion process and stop things from melting because with N2O you have already have greatly increased combustion pressures and heat. now triple that effect with pure O2. i'd imagine that engine life under those circumstances would calculated in seconds......

David Vizard explains it very well in one of his engine books.
 

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do you not want to make a manifold from scratch? something with less material in it?
 

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I see your point imoortality.

I was thinking introducing a little O2, maybe 10cfm, usingthe expansion principle to cool the charge, and increasing oxy content of the mix from 18% to 25% or thereabouts.

N2O degenerates (when catalysed) at about 1300 Deg Celsius into nitrogen and oxygen, so it actually provides oxygen late in the combustion cycle. I am wondering about smaller amounts of oxygen earlier to increase flame front propagation, as well as intercooling.
 

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If this was a feasible option, do you think you are the first person to think of it? I'm not being sarcastic, but if it worked, wouldn't O2 be used instead of N2O?
 
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