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Same old theme revisited ie: VN vs VP - V6
After a little research (Father's friend has worked for a Holden Dealership for 30 years as Manager) I was provided with the following Holden official claimed specs for the VN & VP sixes.
Holden Commodore VN SI
Year of Introduction: 1988
Engine: 3.8 litre EFI V6 ; 5.0 V8 EFI
Power: 125kW (V6) & 165kW (V8)
Transmission: 5 speed manual ; 4 speed Turbohydramatic ; 6 speed ZF manual (Group A)
Performance: 0 - 100 km/h 8.1 seconds (V6 Auto) 7.2 seconds (V8 Auto); Standing 400 metres 15.7 seconds (V6 Auto) 15.1 seconds (V8 Auto)
Production: 215,180
Price: $20,014
Holden Commodore VP SI
Year of Introduction: 1991
Engine: 3.8 litre EFI V6 ; 5.0 V8 EFI
Power: 127kW (V6) & 165kW (V8)
Transmission: 5 speed manual & 4 speed Turbohydramatic 700
Performance: 0 - 100 km/h 8.0 seconds (V6 Auto) 7.2 seconds (V8 Auto); Standing 400 metres 15.5 seconds (V6 Auto) 15.1 seconds (V8 Auto)
Production: 92,860
This appears to clear up the the debate.
But I was told unofficially the performance claims were exaggerated for the VP. The modest 2kW power increase, the increased weight along with the Cam variation, gearbox recalibration (Autos) and computer enhancements to make the VP (and VN series IIs) more tractable in normal driving (read as reduced harshness in the takeoffs) robbed it of some of the lowdown performance of the series I VNs. As speeds rose the cars were close to identical in acceleration but the VN would have a sizeable lead in initial takeoff that the VP could not make up.
At the time the 4.0litre Falcon was ready for release with a lot more power than the Commodore (but less performance) and Holden did not want their updated Commodore, on paper at least, showing less performance than the earlier model.
This is what I was told so please don't shoot the messenger. There are probably quite a few "Official" Holden connected people who think or know this info to not be correct. As for myself having owned VNs SI & SII and 2 x VPs, from my experience this does sounds plausible as my SI is easily the quickest V6 I have owned.
If you look at Modern Motor and Wheels issues covering VNs & VPs the Auto VN SIs consistently ran 8.20 seconds 0-100Km/h and the VN S IIs & VPs 8.96 - 9.3 seconds.
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After a little research (Father's friend has worked for a Holden Dealership for 30 years as Manager) I was provided with the following Holden official claimed specs for the VN & VP sixes.
Holden Commodore VN SI
Year of Introduction: 1988
Engine: 3.8 litre EFI V6 ; 5.0 V8 EFI
Power: 125kW (V6) & 165kW (V8)
Transmission: 5 speed manual ; 4 speed Turbohydramatic ; 6 speed ZF manual (Group A)
Performance: 0 - 100 km/h 8.1 seconds (V6 Auto) 7.2 seconds (V8 Auto); Standing 400 metres 15.7 seconds (V6 Auto) 15.1 seconds (V8 Auto)
Production: 215,180
Price: $20,014
Holden Commodore VP SI
Year of Introduction: 1991
Engine: 3.8 litre EFI V6 ; 5.0 V8 EFI
Power: 127kW (V6) & 165kW (V8)
Transmission: 5 speed manual & 4 speed Turbohydramatic 700
Performance: 0 - 100 km/h 8.0 seconds (V6 Auto) 7.2 seconds (V8 Auto); Standing 400 metres 15.5 seconds (V6 Auto) 15.1 seconds (V8 Auto)
Production: 92,860
This appears to clear up the the debate.
But I was told unofficially the performance claims were exaggerated for the VP. The modest 2kW power increase, the increased weight along with the Cam variation, gearbox recalibration (Autos) and computer enhancements to make the VP (and VN series IIs) more tractable in normal driving (read as reduced harshness in the takeoffs) robbed it of some of the lowdown performance of the series I VNs. As speeds rose the cars were close to identical in acceleration but the VN would have a sizeable lead in initial takeoff that the VP could not make up.
At the time the 4.0litre Falcon was ready for release with a lot more power than the Commodore (but less performance) and Holden did not want their updated Commodore, on paper at least, showing less performance than the earlier model.
This is what I was told so please don't shoot the messenger. There are probably quite a few "Official" Holden connected people who think or know this info to not be correct. As for myself having owned VNs SI & SII and 2 x VPs, from my experience this does sounds plausible as my SI is easily the quickest V6 I have owned.
If you look at Modern Motor and Wheels issues covering VNs & VPs the Auto VN SIs consistently ran 8.20 seconds 0-100Km/h and the VN S IIs & VPs 8.96 - 9.3 seconds.
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