as i said before i don't believe in religion because there are so many now and they all seem to have their problems. i believe in God and evolution. i don't believe in the big bang theory though. There are two ways i look at the dinosaur question :- 1. One day to God could equal a million years to us so maybe dinosaurs were created with the other animals and by the time we were made they were already killed by the meteor theory. 2. Jewish interpretation says that in Genesis God replentished the earth so maybe dinosaurs were before that and God started again. Another point is that carbon dating has been proved incorrect by millions of years many times. The question about different races of people is that after noahs ark they stopped getting along and they built the tower of babylon where they all started talking different languages and went there own ways around the world. through time and evolution and humans adapting to their environments peoples skin pigmentation has changed. And the point to Jesus (apart from dying for our sins) was to show all mankind that we don't need a religion to talk to God, that we don't need to go to priests. It was the catholics that killed him anyway cos they didn't like the thought that they weren't needed and that people would stop treating them with reverance and giving to their church. And for all those that say "why doesn't God stop sin and allow bad things to happen"......GOD DOESN'T INTERVENE IN OUR FREE WILL!!! Someone gets killed by a drink driver then blame the drink driver not God. People don't like being held accountable for there own stupid actions and blame someone they don't even believe in for allowing it to happen. why should he help you if you don't believe. he's not in the business of proving himself as everyone would then believe and it would impede on our free will.
Who here honestly celebrates christmas and/or easter? Majority would so we all follow some form of religion.... I rest my case...
I used to be a passionate athiest. I am now a Christian. My "conversion" was purely from my own research. Athiesm (and the limits of our current science) cannot explain consciousness. It cannot explain compassion, it cannot explain love and it cannot explain inspiration. Athiesm is utterly pointless. I couldn't say for certain which, if any, of the religions is correct. I choose Anglican Christianity because it is to my mind the most plausible. Or to give this an auto angle - would the athiest have as believe that the HSV Coupe GTO is merely the end result of a primordial chemical reaction? It is not statistically credible or plausible. For those in the "I'm-an-athiest, but-I'd-much-rather-not-be-because-it-means-life-is-meaningless" camp, might I recommend CS Lewis (yes, he of Narnia fame - he has also written mature books on the topic of spirituality) as an author well worth reading. Once again, a former athiest who worked it out.
How many people would know why we even celebrate Easter or Christmas? I personally only celebrate Christmas and Easter because its a rare occassion where family and friends gather together for holidays. If it wasn't endorsed and propelled with gifts then it wouldn't be as big as it is now. Hallmark creates most holidays.
YES..... it's like what came first... chicken or the egg?... we had to start somewhere... just look how the world population is growing, then just look backwards from here.... every thing has a cycle, every thing comes and goes, so where did the earth come from and where is it going ?... at the present rate is looks like going to destruction.... :cry: then no more Commadores..
No I for one don't believe in any specific religion (although i was baptised as a baby). My impression of religion is thus, the first religion was thought up by one man/woman, X amount of years ago in order to justify our existence, (kinda like a cult but without the mass suicide thing), and heaps of ppl believed him/her, and followed suit, kinda like sheep. Other religions were created upon the belief that the first one was wrong and that their opinion is better and more "realistic". I have no problems with people believing what they want to believe, go for it. even though their is no photographic proof or even written proof that any form of God exists, really when you think about it, it is all hear-say and myths and legends. Ive seen more damning evidence indicating there is life on other planets than that of Jesus walked the earth. The one thing i cannot stand is people pushing their views down your throat, thats just flat out disrespectful. Also a lot of religions, for you to be devout, make you admit that you are weak and need religion to live a fullfilled life. I find that alot of people use their religious beliefs as a scapegoat for their actions and/or views on a particular issue. My feeling is that people turn to religion because they themselves havent the inner strength to guide them through life, they rely on the opinion and belief of others to justify their actions. The whole "i draw strength from the Lord" attitude, just shows the individuals inability to draw on their own strength. P.S. Is this even remotely close coz my mate told me this the other day and i was quite intriuged, Abraham was God's 'assistant coach' (does all the hard work but isnt on show) correct? And apparently in time, because God didnt give him credit, he actually became the devil while still in God's entourage. is there any trith to this is my mate talkin sh!t? :angel: :devil:
Athiesm is not pointless IMO. IMO, wasting time in church everyweek, and praying before every meal and before bed is pointless. But thats me! The HSV GTO was NOT a result of a primordial chemical reaction. Its the result of over 40,000 years of scientifically proven human evolution! Im not gonna worry about babblin on to ya, you used to be an athiest so you obviously know both sides of the argument quite well! Cheers mate, B
Thats the thing i don't understand, praying to something that you have no physical evidence of even existing. its all based on what one person has decided happened.
your mate doesn't know crap. the devil has been around since before humankind. he was an angel and thought he was equal to God so he was banished from heaven and X amount of angels followed and became his demons.
Athiesm How can being an Athiest be meaningless? Life comes down to one's own beliefs, if you choose to believe in something that cannot be seen, touched, heard, or smelled, then that is your business. I have many beliefs that I keep to myself, unlike those that put their belief in one (supposed)God, waiting for something to happen. If your God is so divine and almighty, why do we have natural disasters that wipe out lives and property? If we were all created in your Gods image then your God must be a psychopath with multiple personality disorder.
i had a feeling he was spinnin sh!t... its kinda got a bit of relevence in their somewhere, he thought he was equal so "God" cracked the sh!ts and booted him out... mayb "God" felt threatened by this dude's superior power and therefore HAD to get rid of him "for the good of the people" or some gibberish crap like that *referring to as "God" because at this point there is no evidence of his existence
You don't know crap. The devil is yet another beleif of just certain religions. Only certain religions beleive in heaven and hell. The fact is his mate's religion may beleive this.
His Grandparents are devout Christians and im pretty sure he was refering to the Good/Evil... God/Devil... Heaven/Hell, standard bible babble. Had nothing to do with his beliefs specifically, just in regard to religion and christianity in general.
Interesting Thread Well I voted yes, though I don't necessarily believe in "religion". I am a Christian. There seems to be some argument going on trying to disprove "religion" based on the outstanding success of science. There is some validity in praising science, but there are also some grounds for strong criticism. After all, it was the early scientists who espoused the flat earth policy, not religious institutions. It is interesting that evolution is taught, treated and believed as fact. It has become a "religion" in its own right. There are many inconsistencies and flaws in the theory, and IMHO it would take a lot of "faith" for me to believe it. There are followers of this "religion" that take legal action in the USA to try to ban schools from teaching even the obvious shortcomings of the "theory". Like most things in life, we make our decisions and we face the consequences. May we all make the right ones.
Unfortunately Earth isn't in God's jurisdiction at the moment. We are behind enemy lines, so to speak. Even Jesus described Satan as "the prince of this world" (John 12:31). Short of giving you a huge (and wholly inadequate) summary of Jewish mysticism - some particularly high ranking Archangel probably once called Sammael ("Lucifer" was apparently his title, not his name) started worshiping his own greatness, and then exercised his gift of free will - poorly - to try to usurp God (which is why Pride is regarded as the deadliest of the sins). He convinced one third of the angels to join him. They lost - badly. The arrogant always overestimate their own ability and underestimate the opponent - think Hitler, Napoleon, etc. This is where they retreated to. They were here before we were. Out of spite and revenge they cause torment on God's creation. Doesn't that suck? Some have been worshiped as gods. So if you're suggesting the "god of this earth" is a psychopath with multiple personality disorder, I think most Christians, Jews and Muslims would probably agree with you. The story is a lot more complex than that, but you can't describe the causes of WWII in two paragraphs either.
Don't believe in any specific religion. Don't believe that anyone can really have much of an idea at all.
I am not a teenager and am in my late 30's. Religions were not written by gods ............... they were written by scared superstitious, ignorant men who were scared by the uncertainty of life and death thousands of years ago. It's sad that so called educated and intelligent people in the year 2006 still believe in the paranoid beliefs of religious WACKOS.
