Rights at work protest today

[pandaman]

I have had the great misfortune of dealing with the CFMEU and the AWU on a number of occasions as I work in the mining industry.

The manipulation, stand over tactics and intimidation that I have experienced is enough to put me off every union in existence. Just the word 'union' makes me think of fat useless pricks scheming on how to screw the employer, whilst running the ALP at the same time. Makes me want to spew.

And why was there such furious opposition to these IR laws by the unions???

It is a numbers game, simple as that!

The unions can see that heaps of people are going to rush to AWA's simply to get out of a union.

Anybody who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves.

Hahaha, nice summation of the state of affairs. Sounds like you'd get along well with those nice fellas over at the TWU, buggers wouldn't know what hit em!

 

[calais_304]

Why would i want to do your job? i educated myself, made good life decisions, worked hard and got myself where i am now, to further that i am off to uni again next year. I don't see why i need to be worried about other people. i am not putting anyone down here, simply saying if you don't like your job or think the pay is ****, educate yourself and get a better one. It isn't a hard situation bud.

yep thats what i did, and now im only going to get more and more the more im in this job went from labouring to office, best thing i ever did, and i thank the 9 months study i had to do.

 

[vt1538]

I dont understand how the teachers can go off at their pay & conditions anyway. They obviously do fcuk all going off the amount of people who cant read or write properly. Put them on a performance based pay rate like everyone else & see what happens.
As for AWA's I have been on one for seven years & not had an issue. As long as I do my job and the boss is happy I get to turn up next week & do it again.
As Minux said. Turn up, do your job, make the boss money & keep your job. Start costing him money no job. Quite simple.

 

[calais_304]

I dont understand how the teachers can go off at their pay & conditions anyway. They obviously do fcuk all going off the amount of people who cant read or write properly. Put them on a performance based pay rate like everyone else & see what happens.

tell me about it, also i still don't get after having 2 weeks holiday they also need to have a pupil free day on the monday just to get work ready for the term, ffs do it in the 2 weeks you get off 3 times a year and also the christmas holidays you get for like 6-8 weeks.

 

[minux]

I dont understand how the teachers can go off at their pay & conditions anyway. They obviously do fcuk all going off the amount of people who cant read or write properly. Put them on a performance based pay rate like everyone else & see what happens.
As for AWA's I have been on one for seven years & not had an issue. As long as I do my job and the boss is happy I get to turn up next week & do it again.
As Minux said. Turn up, do your job, make the boss money & keep your job. Start costing him money no job. Quite simple.

My other half is a teacher, trust me, they work DAMNED hard for the little money they do get. If i did her job i'd want 100k a year. Imagine trying to educate 30 little smart mouthed little shits without having any true form of discipline.

 

[Doubleshadow]

Wrong attitude!

Most employees and employers are honest people. It is just the few screwup that mess it up for everyone, just like insurance. Our insurance rates go up because some dishonest midget-prick lost his viagra and had nothing to do except steal someone's property.

I believe if workers are faithful to employers, they would be treated fairly. Mind you, there are situations where workers have to be let go so the company can survive notwithstanding. But most of the time it is a game of cat and mouse either the boss is trying to screw the employee or vice versa. Based on this, it is inevitable the government has to step in and either make it favorable for the employee or the employer.

By the way, I think it is total crap that you work for a company faithfully for years, and then they casually drop you for a cheaper labor. Employers and employees are investments into the welfare and survival of the company. If the employee or employee screw the company, everyone loses. That is like killing the goose who laid the golden egg. Every astute manager realizes that the people he manages is his lifeblood and attempting to hurt them, is like having a blocked artery. It will eventually lead to a heart attack. But some of us have our head so far up our asses, we can tickle our eyeballs when brushing out teeth.

 

[gopher]

myself, i know i wont lose my job, i know i am a valuable asset to the company i am with. I know this because i work hard and achieve results.

irreplaceable are you??:rofl:

think again buddy


and didn't you do a couple of tours overseas with the army fighting for the rights of people in other countries?

all while the people in your own country are getting screwed over and you find this perfectly acceptable.

i myself feel it's quite hypocritical

 

[minux]

irreplaceable are you??:rofl:

think again buddy

For the next 5 years, yes i am, i signed a salary package contract for the next 5 years. So unless we both mutually withdraw it, my job is safe.

 

[gopher]

For the next 5 years, yes i am, i signed a salary package contract for the next 5 years. So unless we both mutually withdraw it, my job is safe.

does that mean you're stuck there for the next 5 years also?

 

[drewins]

Well my employer hasnt started offereing the new agreements yet. But I can only imagine that they will be brought in in the future.

If they do get brought in and I get offered a small wage increase but my entitlements removed I would not be happy. And my employer is not the type that would just say "Oh well thats alright you dont have to sign the agreement just keep working as you are".

I am hearing stories all over the place about people having to give up their entitlements or give up their jobs. How the f**k is that fair?