Exactly, like i said before, this will increase bloodshed yet again. People don't actually think it will all stop now do they?
i think the problem in iraq is going to get worse before it gets better. either the US goes in 100% and sorts it good and proper (which they won't do) or they get out and let the middle eastern countries sort it themselves. the US shoulda gone in ,did the job and got out fast. Saddams rise to power to be contributed to the west so in some ways, this was there way of trying to rectify the situation(maybe). just like the taliban in afganistan being funded by the US to combat the russians but then being left with the taliban going all extremist when the russians left. a lot of this is really left overs from the Cold War of the 60's, 70's, and 80's. the US may have a lot to answer for but who does the world(U.N.) turn to when something happens they don't like so the US can fix it for them. **conspiracy theory time** maybe the US doesn't want to get out of iraq quickly cause they (the u.n./world)currently have issues with iran and it's nuclear ambitions (and i really believe they don't want to make the bomb) and it would be good to be nice and close if they ever wish to make a move in there (remembering that this was the ambition of the west when they sponsored iraq in there war with iran) iran is a major sponsor of terrorism against the west/Isreal etc
lol You are right, according to western media and western leaders. No offence, bu the true terrorists arent the ones trying to protect the land, they are the ones who invaded the land. Padrickz, you said hang half of the soldiers, why do you say that? Soldiers should never be lay to blame, they simply follow orders.
very very good! it was surprising to see them broadcast his final walk,he was pretty shattered,maybe now he knows how the hundreds of people he put on death row feel! what goes around comes around
Guys I know the hanging of Saddam is floating around on the net could we please NOT put this up. Be respectful of those who might be viewing the site.
Should we re-title this thread? Well, I came back to this thread after a day or so to find it full of "conspiracy theories". I never cease to be amazed at the "claims" presented as fact re world events. Positive point is that we are free to say what we think or "know". Hopefully the Iraqi's will achieve that freedom too one day.
OIL....OIL... its all about oil ... Suddam was an excuse to start the war ... Bush got smart and let the Iraqy people hang him ... USA could have easly sent in a sniper at the beginning to take out Suddam ... they also could have taken out Saddam a few times but didn't ... USA once paid Suddam $millions to fight a war for them.... USA even paid $millions to Bin Laden too to fight a war and taught him every military tatic... thats why they can't catch him .... Same as when the International WAr Crimes Court was gonna star ... USA declined ..... for sure they would be the first ones tried in there...
its true, the soldiers that do there job and dont shoot people unless they need to and all that stuff, arnt the problem and should be left alone. BUT the soldiers who shoot people just because they can, torture people and sexually abuse people etc etc for the reason that they believe they can do what they want because they know the government will change the story so the government doesnt sound bad or just cover it up and not let it be seen by the public..... countrys have always done it, so if there going to hang saddam, hang them soldiers(bad ones) and there leader because they are just as bad as saddam because they are doing the exact same thing.... o well it happens i guess and what can we do?
Thinking about the whole conspiracy theory thing... If I'm not mistaken (I havent been paying very close attention, but try to pick up as much as possible), the video of Saddam being hanged ends seconds before he "dies". I'm thinking... Has a deal been made? Oil for America, Saddam gets to go off and hide on some tropical island with millions of dollars, while everyone thinks he is dead? Even if the video does show him dying... Could it be fake?? I mean... editing and all that jazz. Things like this always seem to happen as Americas actions are being questioned. I really really hate how I have no idea whats going on in the world, because I can't believe information that I get from anywhere. No matter where you turn, someone else's opinions or political agenda is going to be thrown at you. One more thing... I wonder if we will ever see Bush put in jail for war crimes. (Saddam = (if true) hanged... George = (if ever) jailed...) < for the same crimes... Seem fair?
...just knew I would weigh in on this! Hanging Saadam was the stupidest thing to do. Under the auspicies of the United States military, we have turned a maniacal megalomaniac into a matyr, and in the process pissed off some angry people who have a thing about strapping bombs around their bodies and running into crowded areas. Now, don't get me wrong, just because everyone is cynical and imagining that George Bush is Darth Vader exlempified, I do not agree. Some people just need some small justification to go off the deep end. I want to defend George Bush...he is my president...but I cannot see any way to do so and maintain my integrity. That does not mean I will stand by and watch others shovel additional imagined **** on him. He does not need your help, he already has a huge pile of his own making. With some of the imagination on this page, some of you would make great catoonists. Back to Saadam. I have grave fears for 2007 which reeks in the shadows of Saadam's execution. These militants will want to make a significant statement. We cannot win a war with enemies we cannot find and we cannot guard all our institutions. To make matters worst, without Saadam, Iraq has gotten worst. Infact, in order for Iraq to get better, we need a strongman like Saadam. The bottom line is we have a violence disease in Iraq and we probably just killed the cure. This war reeks of such great tragedic irony, Aeschylus would be turning in his grave.
lol, just curious, did anyone see the coffin saddam was alledged to have been put into? There is no way in hell that he could of been jammed into it, you would struggle to fit a 6 ft nerd into it, let alone a big bulky man like saddam.
Hmm let me see, well first of all micheal moore, foxtel (discovery mainly) and well yes its basic knowledge if you care to read in to the topic more. Bush was unfairly voted in. On his enaugeration (excuse spelling) he was mobbed and had riots occuring as everybody knew he was unfairly voted in and what a coincidence that the state that caused all the contriversy was at the time being ran by his little brother Jeb Bush. Every body knows Iraq was a mistake. Iraq has never once began attack on America but America has began attacks on Iraq so what did you expect them to do just sit back and have there already screwed government get even worse. Its a corrupt government. If you want facts watch Farenheit 911, Read Worse than Watergate and look at the basic facts. Even there own government officials have all retired and left office as they dont want to be around when the S**t hits the fan regarding this whole thing. The director of the terroist department has still wondered why the taliban is sitting there. and if everyone here thinks that this will never effect australia look at the map of the world and look whos above us.
So does that mean George, John and Tony will get what comes around as well? I think not and yes of course its all about oil. Oil makes the world go round at the moment. lol AWB......... lol lol
To be fair... Just like everything else Farenheit 911 is HEAVILY influenced by the personal and political opinions of one person, and when I say heavily influenced I mean that it IS just one persons view. YES... It is an alternative to the mainstream, and YES... I think people SHOULD watch it and make up their own minds. BUT I think people themselves need to come to some sort of balance between the two extreams (left and right wing). Unfortunatly there's no way of knowing the "truth". In the words of Mulder... "the truth is out there!" lol!! Not really... I jus thought I'd add that. But "truth" itself is relative. What is "true" to one person in one situation is differnt to what is "true" to someone else. Life is too complicated. Sit back, crack open a can of your favorite drink whatever it may be, and enjoy!
lol, i have respected your opinions until his one. Michael moore is a living joke, he is no better than the govt he tries to bring down, using propaganda bullshit and his own opinions. I go on what people tell me, what you hear from advisories on both sides of the fence, not what some wannabe director tells me and sure as hell not what some leader witht he brains of a monkey tells me.
Wrong Section? After reading the above and a few other comments, I think that this thread should be moved to Jokes/Humour.
there needs to be "other"... its a good thing because he deserves it but then again after that its over... why not make him suffer? some form of solitary or torture??
I agree with you on this one, it was well known Saddam had a whole heap of 'body' doubles for appearances, etc in Iraq, not much of a stretch to use one of these ones in place of the real one I personally think a deal was made, not that we are ever going to get hard proof of it in the current media climate though...
yeah, sorry, shoulda put "other" there in the pole for people who maybe though that he deserved some of his own medicine. i personally think that hanging him was to kind. i think all tha bush needs to do is admit that he was wrong about saddam having nucks etc but at the end of the day saddam isn't a great loss to the world. they shoulda had someone ready to put in his place maybe to create stability but it's to late for that now. the dictator style seemsto work for some countries but the fact that saddam was killing of kurds cause he didn't like them was going to far, using nerve gas on your own people is just a little overthe top. bush won the college vote in the US but lost the popular vote, it's a little weird system but it's the one they use so thats that really. he did get re-elected so that says something. at the end of the day you can never please everyone but bush will be gone in a year or 2, if the west hadden't removed saddam he wouldabeen there until the day he died and then we would ahad one of his sons who took great pleasure in beating and raping woman, like a sport to him it was, i've even seen a doco where his son raped a visiting ballerina (spelling?) from another country.....nice family. we don't need people like that in this world.
