Series 2 leather seat owners please comment

I have the same problem. Have had it changed once but it is still the same. I am going to see the dealer again it appears now that the cushion has got softer and the sagging is worse. Needs a harder cussion.

 

Yeah, doesn't look right. Take it to another dealer, or call Holden Customer Service.

 

that looks crap man.... doesnt look right (especially since its only been such a short time).
even my series 1 International (i've got leather seats too), doesnt look like that. still nice and firm.
definitely pursue this further.

 

Never had that problem with any of my leather seats (last 5 cars).

Reaper

 

The condition is called 'grabbing' or so I was told by the coach builder who re-built the front seats in my DB5. The cranky old prick said it has a lot to do with the poor handling of the raw leather before it is sewn. The leather might not have been properly 'checked' (another technical term no doubt). The roll might have been incorrectly stored, transported, or parts of it was exposed to a hot light source. He said something else but I was already bored to tears listening to him ramble on. Guess I am now doing the same. The weave of the leather loses it's elasticity (did I spell that right?). Thus you have inconsistant results. Some seats look great for 10 years (hopefully) and some look crap after only 10 months.

Sad eh.

Now I dont give a flying f@#k if the info he spat at me was right, wrong or indiferent. He is right about this: the leather seats in my wife's SSV are made using some of the poorest quality leather material he has ever encountered. When I asked if there ws anything I could do to avoid more 'grabbing' he said: "Its only a friggin ford, who gives a f@#k." The silly dumb prick didn't realise it's a holden.
His best advice....never use car seat covers on that sort of leather.

We have slight grabbing on the front passenger seat of my wife's car. Sometimes its me grabbing her cute little arse other times its the leather.

 

I dont know how many Commodores I've been in with leather (a lot!), but those pictures aren't uncommon. Whether it just means holden leather is REALLY **** or it's normal, I can't say, but I've seen it happen a lot (and on new cars with less <3000kms on them).

 

My May build '11 SSV leather seats seem to be pretty good, i only get a mark in the seat if ive got my wallet in my back pocket (which i dont do often bcos its bloody uncomfortable).
I wouldnt be putting up with the seats doing that in my new car....

 

So far mine still look real good at 10,000km.... At the recent Melbourne motor show, I noticed how a lot of cars (not just Holden) with leather interiors looks pretty sad and 'grabby' after a week of people jumping in and out of them. Too bad if you buy one of these 'ex-demo' cars!

I hope mine doesn't do this as I paid $2K extra for the dead cow and would be really pi$$ed. One thing to bear in mind, leather used by most car manufacturers is what they call 2nd or 3rd cut (not top cut), and they laminate a coloured vinyl coating onto it so you are not sitting on leather really, just vinyl with a leather base! Why the vinyl you ask... this is the only way they can consistently match the colours.

If you buy a Lambo or top of the range Merc etc., then they can take the time and money to match 1st cut leather in the interiors.

 

After a long trip down south (~500km) i've noticed my seats are having the exact same problem as yours. Mine is a Nov 10 built series2..

I'll get a pic tonight.

 

Holden leather is crap

I was offered free upgrade to leather on my SV6 and I said no !'I strictly requested cloth, know it will look like **** a few yrs down the track...

If you want leather interior in your holden....get a custom job by a reputable trimmer....

It will cost more, but it will be worth it !

 

is it even 100% leather

 

All warranty claims are paid by GM Holden, such claims are to be made as a result of faulty or defective materials at time of supply and fitment.

If you believe that your seats do not fit into the normal wear from use category contact Holden Customer Services and explain your situation, take your car to another dealer, seek their advice.

In all honestly though your selling dealer is the most likely to assist you with your claim.

good luck and keep us posted with your result.

 

Mate, good luck with Holden customer assistance (that’s an oxymoron if I ever heard one) I complained about the exact same situation with my leather VEII SSV seats at the first service. Response was “it is considered normal for a natural product such as leather”
I would love to have this leather assessed or tested by an expert, my bet is its leatherette not real leather at all. So much for there so called natural product. Compared to the other issues with my car the seats pale in comparison.
We as consumers need to get some balls and get together and stick it to these manufactures. Aussie’s as a general rule are easy going. We need to stand together and kick up a stink.
End rant, for now. Watch my posts more to come.

 

Good luck with Customer Assistance - I've had nothing but headaches with them. I wouldn't ever buy a holden with leather for that very reason. The leather is crap - no ifs or buts. Not saying the cloth is great either, but it will be better.

Shop around with the dealers for your warranty claims also - my selling dealership was rubbish. I've now found one that isn't - and if I do take the punt on a new holden at any point, I will buy from them also. It took them two days to diagnose and fix a problem that the selling dealership couldn't manage to sort in two and a half years. There are some dealerships that know what customer service is - and are very good at retaining customers. However there are plenty more that are rubbish.

The thing about replacing the seats, like for like, is that it will inevitably happen again and again. A better bet would be to re-trim, as somebody else pointed out - or buy aftermarket seats - both options, though, are obviously out of your pocket - but aftermarket seems to be the only solution to the endless headaches associated with anything OE. My car is now out of warranty (though much of the driveline, etc is still covered as so much work has been done on my car under warranty) - ANYTHING that fails on my car and has to be paid for by me will be replaced with quality aftermarket equipment.

 

I'm with Tins. Customer Assistance are a bunch of f^%kwits. No ifs or buts IMO. end.

 

I hear that loud and clear, this forum is a great place were people experiencing the same issues can group together and negotiate as a team for a positive out come. I'm sure that we all come from different areas of expertise in the community. Drawing for that collective experience, in a fair claim I feel we could come out the winners in the end.

 

Mate you know all my issues...

This one is on the list also. I raised it years ago with my dealer and they said I could end up with a worse case than I had. However mine doesn't appear to be as bad as yours.
Mine doesn't fold under itself. I never wanted leather either as the cloth has always worn better IMO. It was not an option on the SSV.