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Discussion in 'VN - VP Holden Commodore (1988 - 1993)' started by PaRaDoX, Nov 26, 2006.

  1. PaRaDoX

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    hey guys, just finished putting my engine back together yesterday
    (did headgaskets, changed heads valve springs etc)

    now i put it back together properly...... and i didnt even touch the starter motor/wiring for the starter motor and u crank it over and it sounds like the solonoid is freezing then the relay in the fuse box goes crazy

    only things i can think of is
    1) starter motor is dead (grrr this is the 3d the car has had this year)
    2) theres a wiring short somewhere but ive tripple checked the wires and i cant see any
    3) something on the belt is jammed

    but it dosnt sound like the starter is even engauging..its just driving me up the wall im gonna put a spanner thru the windscreen soon

    the first starter motor just died like they do, u could get it spinning by cranking it and banging it with a hammer but not enough to start it
    the second starter motor didnt sound healthy since i put it in (2nd hand one) and died 2 months later
    the third one sounded like a industrial numatic drill (really healthy) and started the car really easily so it shouldnt be dead

    as far as i know nothing dripped down onto it that could cause a short but i could be wrong

    any suggestions would be awesome as im about to explode and destroy my car!!!!!
     
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    can you try another (known good) battery? can you try running a wire directly from the +batt terminal to the spade lug on the solenoid on the starter motor. (Ive heard a screwdriver can be used to short the fat +12v wire for the actual starter and the spade lug on the solenoid!)
     
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    nah man battery is @ 12.3V, battery is less than a year old its a 550CCA 11 plate not a battery issue i dont believe

    but you Gave me a idea.... where exactly does the spade terminal wire run??? could i have crushedand shorted the wire when i took the engine apart???
     
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    well as the crow flies, it goes from the starter motor via the starter relay to the starter switch.
     
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    hrmmm... its gotta be the terminal wiring
    whats the wiring in terms of polarity????

    big fat wire = 12v??
    skinny wire = accessory 12V?

    and the whole things grounded?
     
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    i take it back...... you were right.. battery was at fault.. the clicking sound was fuel pump relay (fuel pump not going on due to lack of power)
     
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