Smoking ban 'trend' in Victoria.

lol the smokers will NEVER quit justifying their filthy, senseless and idiotic habit. Why? Because they need to justify it to themselves somehow.

And thank you lepht93 for pointing out your underlying ignorance ... The GST hasn't changed AT ALL since it was implemented. It is, and always has been 10%. I can now understand why pretty much EVERYTHING you have said in this thread either doesn't make sense or is just flat out wrong.

 

The GST is 10%.
There are other taxes imposed on the products as well.

CSP, its as idiotic and senseless as drinking Alcohol. Why not the public uproar about that?

Lepht: Find the edit button dude.

 

You seriously have no idea...

The GST is 10%. Always has been since it was introduced.

The excise on cigarettes which is completely separate is what went up recently.

Seriously, GET A CLUE!!! You're only making yourself look stupid. But if the shoe fits............. Or are you just baiting? Because honestly, I know 10 year olds that understand the GST better than what you're making out. And for that matter most of the rest of what you're saying. Wait... Hang on, it's not school holidays already is it?

 

Hey you wont get an arguament from me on that, I never said it was all about me, and, I am not angry with him or anything.
The point I was making is that like alcoholism, illicit drugs etc, it often affects a lot of people in ways we dont fully realise sometimes.
And getting back to the original point of the thread, I dont care if secondhand smoke is bad for me or not, couldnt give a rats, the point is I HATE the smell of it, simple as that, I honestly find it a downright repugnant smell, and would rather not have people smoke anywhere near me. But like I said, I would not give them a filthy look or have a go at them, because I aint rude, and thats their choice. I will move away if possible. But, having said that, if someone came to me for a job interview (which happens from time to time if the guy who usually does it is away), and they told me they were a smoker, they would not get the job, full stop, because I see it as a sign of poor judgement and, I would not like to have workers that are always slacking off to go and have a smoke.

stugdum

 

And that's totally your prerogative.
But how much would it piss you off if you got into trouble because technically that's discrimination. It's the same as not giving the job to someone who isn't the right body shape or colour.

I'm not saying you're wrong to do that, your reasoning seem perfectly feasible to me. But allot would, in the same way allot cry about smokers.
Which is basically what I'm arguing, We should have the right to make these choices for ourselves. And those choices should be respected. Not legislated.

We should have the right to make the choices and the onus to accept the consequences.

 

Oh... My... God...

 

Lepht - You've missed the whole point of your arguement.

 

:rofl:

Good call... Totally true.

 

Its not about money, its not about what it does to you.
Its about it being your choice to do it. Not the person next to you. If someone else doesn't like it they've the choice to confront you or move on. We shouldn't have legislation dictating basic desires.
If every dangerous, fruitless activity was banned we'd all end up trapped inside with re breathers on. Life is for living, unfortunately apart of being alive is dying. I believe in Quality not Quantity. But like everything these days so many people seem to think the latter is more desirable. It's just sad that the people that do believe that force that belief onto everyone and create mass hysteria to do so.

Not every smoker dies a horrible smoking related death, just as not everyone that speeds dies in a head on collision. The world and life are unpredictable, it's high time we accept that fact live it for what it is, instead of spending it trying to avoid the inevitable.

 

I'm sure all those people who have gotten sick from second-hand smoke will be thrilled that you have paid for thier treatment. I mean it not like its better to have not gotten sick in the first place.

 

Thats true, but anti-discrimination laws dont stop discrimination one iota, they just drive it underground. An employer might not give you the job because you are black/gay/too fat/too skinny/ too short/ too tall/smoker etc whatever his dislike may be, but he aint gonna tell you that, he'll just tell you something like "sorry sir, but you were unsuccessful this time around as a person more qualified for the position was found, but your application will be kept on file and considered for any future positions" When in reality he is probably thinking something like "I wouldnt give you a job if you were the last person on Earth, you filthy poofter/######/ etc (whatever the case may be) and this application is going straight in the bin!" And you cant prove it! Because he/she hasnt actually said as much. But if he is silly enough to tell you that (and most employers are smarter than that) then that is a different matter, and his arse will be history. So if we think the anti-discrimination laws work we are kidding ourselves.

stugdum