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Snow Chains at the North Pole Safety Alert. !!!!!!

Discussion in 'VF Holden Commodore (2013 - 2017)' started by Jingle Bells, Jun 29, 2014.

  1. PIR4TE

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    Not the popular, preferred online consensus but is moot - when would you use them? In your backyard?!
    My concern is driving 50-100km per day over various alpine road surfaces with socks stretched over the tyres. I can't imagine how they'd last for long with a bit of inevitable 400hp wheelspin and two tonne downforce on crappy gravelly roads.
    Even if they provided the traction of chains or studded tyres I doubt they'd last a day, CBF changing socks all the time.
     
  2. Rajesh Koothrappali

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    I use them in both the NSW and Vic alps without incident. They can handle wear VERY well and people in Europe have reported forgetting to take them off and hitting 80 - 100 kph and still not having wear issues.

    It's important to realise that nowhere in Australia are road conditions ever bad enough to fit chains over the top of winter tyres. Not that people fit winter tyres in Australia but if they did they wouldn't need chains. In fact good winter tyres these days are as good as chains over tyres. The snow socks provide as good or a bit better performance as good winter tyres and that's more than enough in Australia for two and four wheel drive cars.

    I still carry chains though - archaic legal requirement and all.
     
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    Oh I see on top of winter tyres, agree prolly don't need it yet worth having.
     
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    No - they're instead of winter tyres.
     
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    I live in snow country dude. Most of what you just wrote is crap. Socks will **** in a couple of kms of asphalt. We also have plenty of roads that need chains (or similar) in winter. Meet me at Jindi and I'll show you.
     
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    In the emergency department we often refer to someone who is extremely drunk as being munted.

    Oh how times change.
     
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    Having lived in Europe in winter (Norway and Austria), as well as Canberra and spent much time in Jindabyne (assuming that's what you mean by "Jindi") and Khancoban I can assure you that Australian winter conditions would never warrant snow chains in Europe where they use (by law) winter tyres. Any cleared road (so not counting the Kosciusko Rd from Perisher to Charlotte Pass for example) in Australia would pose no problems for winter tyres (if we had them) and poses no problem for snow socks.

    And regarding the Kosciusko Rd from Perisher to Charlotte Pass, it's not cleared because of the novelty and charm of Charlotte Pass maintaining it's "snowbound village" status - which I quite like. :) I'm certainly not saying you could drive there! Although it wouldn't be hard to clear it, and keep it clear all winter. It'd be considered a main road for some towns in Europe! :D
     
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    Chains =teh loser

    Studs for the win
     
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    Taxi wuvs studs ;)
     
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    Good to see nothing changes in here. The usual know it alls posting garbage. Snow soxs are not legal in aust because they've been deemed unsafe for aust conditions. End of story. I'd like to see the look on the face of the tyre dealer if you went and asked for winter tyres to be fitted here. As for your claim if living in Europe, cool story. Conditions are completely different here. When's the last it you saw anyone salting roads in aust?
     
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    *sigh* you need to read all my posts. Or maybe I'm just not being clear or something - I don't know. Apologies if I'm not getting my points across in a way you can understand them. I certainly am not a know it all and I am not posting garbage. I am sharing knowledge from years of first hand experience.

    I know Snow Socks don't meet the legal requirements in Australia that Snow Chains do. I am not disputing that and I still carry snow chains as a result. And nowhere has deemed snow socks "unsafe for Australian conditions". Also, nowhere have I said anything about getting winter tyres fitted in Australia. All I have said is that if winter tyres were used in Australia, there isn't a maintained public road anywhere in our Alpine region that a winter tyre couldn't handle without chains. And finally, I have never said Australian roads were salted. As far as I know, they're not. We don't have conditions severe enough or long term enough to warrant the cost.
     
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    Dunlop M3 Winter Sports 245/45-18's all round on an XUV for the win :wave:
    oh, and a set of diamond pattern chains in the back, coz snow patrol says so ;) (psst, never used/needed)
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    pfft... not trying hard enough. :p
     
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    Lol, the fact that you didn't know Jindi just shows how full of crap you are, only tourists call it Jindabyne. I spose you're familiar with the Brindies?

    Anyway, get your arse down here, look me up and we'll see how you go without chains where I take you, especially after the snow hits 600m like last weekend.
     
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    The fact I choose to talk correctly means I'm a full of crap and a tourist? Riiiiiiiiight. Brindies are the Brindabella Ranges. I simply choose not to be a bogan yobbo walking around saying "drivin down past the Brindies to Jindi in me Commy".

    Like I said, any MAINTAINED road in Australia will be fine to drive on with socks and without chains. End of story.
     
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    Oh so you're being judgemental? My bad, I didn't realise.

    Also you only said maintained on this page and I can't mind read.

    That was sarcasm dude, why would you like it? You didn't know what Jindi was so you didn't choose ****.
     

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