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Trentus

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Hey can anyone offer some advice on if it is worth upgrading the speakers only in my VE SV6 S1. Just bought the car and the left hand front speaker has a buzz about it, so thinking of changing out the speakers only and not the head unit ($$'s) prob the biggest issue at the moment. So what would you go for say up to $300

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A basic speaker upgrade will make a huge difference to your system, first disconnect the 3 inch speaker in the centre and get rid of it and you'll hear an instant improvement. Everybody has their own preferences on speaker brands, or where to buy, so telling you what speakers to buy will probably result in a debate about which company is best. However on a budget you're not going to get audiophile quality, so go to JB HIFI or Strathfield or what ever car audio specialist is close and purchase I set of 6" component speakers for your front doors. I picked up a set of Fusion 5 3/4 inch components from Repco on clearance for $50 for my previous ute and they sounded sweet.

Hope this helps

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Hello,
The stock speakers in my omega was fine but not enough to please me. So i decided to upgrade the speakers, after some research on this forum i bought 6 inch 300w 4ohm pioneer speakers. Changed all 4 door speakers and did a neat job with connecting the wires etc. Tested all before putting the trims back...to my great surprise the stock 20w speakers are much louder... the only difference is that the sound is a bit more detailed but not loud at all. I am very disapointed and this is still chewing my brain! I am guessing the stock headunit is not sending enough power to the speakers? I would really appreciate your views on why it is not as loud despite being 300w.
If i connect a line output converter and an amp, will i need to rewire all the cables or can i use the factory wires?
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The speakers that replaced the factory ones may have been of a lower sensitivity. Sensitivity means nothing really if you have sufficient power available, some people go for high sensitivity speakers for certain reasons, but in this sort of case it doesn't apply.

Just because you put a better speaker in, doesn't mean it will sound any better. If you haven't changed the source, or provided any extra amplification, then what do you expect? The speakers are the final end of the chain, you need balance in the whole system, not just in one area.

300w means nothing, it's also it's peak power output, not it's nominal output, even a speakers nominal output or power handling often has nothing to do with how "loud" they will be. Bottom line is you get what you pay for, you didn't spend much, and you only changed part of the system. If you want any further help you will have to at least provide a model number of the components you put in. You may have even wired something out of phase, or something simple like that.

With regards to line out convertor and amplifier, you take the signal close to the head unit so it's before the factory crossover parts. Speaker wire goes in, rca cable goes out. rca cable goes to amp, speaker cable goes from amp to new crossover, from crossover to speakers. If you bought coaxials you may not have a crossover unit to worry about. Anyways more info is needed.
 

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You put speakers in that either require a stronger wattage output from the head unit or an amplifier.
Factory head units and speakers are fairly closely matched, you either need a head unit that has a higher rms/nominal output or install an amplifier.
Or buy lower wattage speakers.
 

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300 Watts Maximum input power
* 35 Watts Nominal input power
* 4 ohm Impedance
* 37 - 30,000 Hz Frequency response
* 90 dB Sensitivity (1W/1m)
* Woofer material Carbon Graphite IMPP Interlaced Aramid Fiber Cone
* 11,0 mm Tweeter size
* 42,0 mm Midrange size
* 128,0 mm Cut-out Hole
* 44,0 mm Mounting Depth
i know its not the top range but mods can be done to achieve quality sound. I believe i will do the amp set up later. I just discovered a guy in melbourne who can install full ipod integration on a series 1 for 550$. All controlled from steering wheels with songs display on the green screen.
 

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For speakers - get a CD of music you listen to. Go to some shops that have a sound board set up and listen to your music on various speakers. Find a couple you like the sound of and then hunt for the best price. And don't be afraid to tell a salesperson what other price you found - they may be able to beat it if they aren't going to get the sale otherwise. Personally I'd also replace all the speaker wire. (But I've never done just speakers from stock h/u on any of my cars - just believe that cheap speakers, and wire that is just good enough for those speakers is a great money saver for the manufacturer. Why'd they waste money for a small % of customers doing upgrades, a lot of who'd replace wires no matter what anyway). On other brands (Mates with Hondas) just speakers and wire did rather nice gains.

Also take a read of https://forums.justcommodores.com.au/threads/upgrading-ve-stock-speakers-how.159709 There's quite a few people that have done this, and will help with doing the actual install.
 

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300 Watts Maximum input power
* 35 Watts Nominal input power
* 4 ohm Impedance
* 37 - 30,000 Hz Frequency response
* 90 dB Sensitivity (1W/1m)
* Woofer material Carbon Graphite IMPP Interlaced Aramid Fiber Cone
* 11,0 mm Tweeter size
* 42,0 mm Midrange size
* 128,0 mm Cut-out Hole
* 44,0 mm Mounting Depth
i know its not the top range but mods can be done to achieve quality sound. I believe i will do the amp set up later. I just discovered a guy in melbourne who can install full ipod integration on a series 1 for 550$. All controlled from steering wheels with songs display on the green screen.

Spending $550 to plug in a poor sounding ipod is not going to do anything for the sound quality. Priority is the speakers require an amplifier, from there the installation needs to be looked at, and also the tuning.
 

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Yes i am i am getting the amp and wiring done soon.. No doubt it will be better!
 
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