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SquishyShoes' vc commy project.

Discussion in 'VB - VC - VH - VK' started by SquishyShoes, Mar 12, 2015.

  1. Sandman

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    To ask more annoying questions :p Did the woodgrain cluster plug straight in or did it need different wiring? Got one for mine in the cupboard here too.
     
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    Allg man, I love stupid/annoying questions. I'm constantly asking them.

    As for engine, I'm going l67, but putting the T5 behind it, hence the need for machining the flywheel (different counter weights on the manual flywheel/auto flexplate). The wood grain cluster? Bolts straight in the same as any other vc cluster, the only thing to keep in mind extra wire for the tacho. There's a two terminal plug, with a blue wire on top and a brown wire on the bottom for the tacho (can't remember off the top of my head what the blue does). Brown wire goes to the negative side of the coil. I'll get a pic of what I'm talking about next time I'm near it.

    Anything else?
     
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    Sweet, nah should be all good for now. This will be good fun as a manual. As much as I'm not a fan of the L67 this should be great fun to drive. Think your a Victorian yeah? You'll have to bring it to Melbourne once its on the road.
     
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    Yup, I'm a Viccie.

    Did a quick google this pic shows, in the upper left, what I mean by extra wire (the blue one is the oil pressure like I thought):

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    When I get a bit closer to done, I'll have to find out if my tacho even works (got it from the wreckers) and if it'll even work with the vs signal. Gonna be fun.
     
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    You will need a tune done to have it run properly, they oly came out auto as you probably know. There is also a few issues with speed sensor due to a t5 being a hall effect and the PCM only accepting a Sinewave type. Most people have it turned off or just left out. Creates a few idle problems during deceleration etc.
     
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    SquishyShoes or something like that

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    Are they major problems with the idle? And does getting a tune done differ to having vats removed and manual burnt in? Read a few times that I should have the vss removed when I do this, but I wasn't aware of the different waves. Btw, when you welded up the crossmember for your gearbox, did you use the original t5 frame with some angle welded or the m20 from the original commy? Any tips/advice, things you got stuck with while you were doing all this? Cheers mate
     
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    On the back of the cluster, it is marked, oil and taco
     
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    I made one up, its just 40 or 50mm square with right angle on the sides.
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    With a std engine the VSS should not be much of a problem, sometimes without it plugged in mine will drop the idle a bit low when decelerating and then dipping the clutch between gears and stopping, it will also flare the revs if you load it slightly to crawl forward in traffic and the revs drop below idle speed and then when you push the pedal back in they jump up momentarily. More of an annoyance then actual problem.

    There is not a lot of problems, the radiator setup is a bit messy unless you change the bottom crossmember to VN/VS. You can run a V8 radiator but its not as neat as the later model one.
     
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    Well, fair bit's been done the last month or two. And a lot of nothing too I guess :p

    To start with I rewired the speaker system. The last guy to hook up a radio (twin shaft cassette player, for an idea of how long ago that was) used all green wire for the speakers and just twisted the wires together to join adn wrapped them in electrical tape. All done up properly now.

    Torn apart a few things, got the K-Frame painted up in a satin black.
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    Took the car for it's last drive under 202 POWER!
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    Then started to take it apart to tear it out. Much easier after two EFI engines.
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    The Vs booster/cylinder were surprisingly easy to sit in. Gave it a knock or two and elongated the holes on the brace/mount a little bit (had it off for the pic I guess)
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    Slapped in some Low King Springs and new Monroe shocks I've had sitting here waiting for like 12 months. Depending on the angle you look at it from, it's about perfect for how I want it.
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    Dad sat the motor in for a test fit to see how low it sits here.

    A few weeks later, we got stuck back in and this weekend we got rid of the old battery tray. There was about a dozen spot welds holding it in? It really didn't want to go anywhere.
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    Started dummy fitting the gearbox and will hopefully make the crossmember this weekend.
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    And then just a last one to see how it looks with the air intake sitting there. Doesn't quite sit far enough forward though.
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    I'm sure we've done more that I've forgotten :p
    Any questions give me a shout.
     
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    Thats where those cold air intakes sit, running one on one of my toys here....
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    Welp, been a while between updates, but only 'cause I've been in the shed haha.

    Got plenty of stuff done, but nothing that looks overly impressive in photos. Need to cut a new rad support out of a more modern car, then once I've done that it should just be a case of bolting things in (and making sure they fit) from here on out.


    Stripped the interior ready for joining and splicing wires and putting some air con.
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    Then yesterday, I picked up this.
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    The VN to VS one is a straight forward fit if you werent sure what one you needed.
     
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    Exactly the plan, keep getting things that are too neat to cut a piece out of like that though.
     
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    Well, not much of an update, but I think I've finally decided how I'm going to mount the different bits and pieces in the engine bay and done up a bit of a wiring diagram. Got lucky and was able to borrow a copy of the VS factory service manual (vol 9) off of one of dad's mates.
    Also, got brand new carpet to go in and to line the parcel shelf when I get a bit closer.

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    So, at the moment the plan is to mount the washer bottle off of a vn (minus coolant bottle) in the factory position, use the vs fuse box,
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    then chuck a vz v6 coolant bottle under the guard.

    Any thoughts or suggestions?
    Cheers
     
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    Looking good mate. Should go alright when done.
     
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    Well, time for another little update.

    For starters, I finally finished tearing the wiring loom out of my donor car. I rather like the idea of mounting the under dash fuse box from it into the vc.
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    Secondly, I picked up this little unit, with factory aircon.
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    Had aircon in it from factory, set about turning it from this
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    to this
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    And then this weekend been, while I took it off and lazed about, Dad cut holes
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    and mounted the aircon inside the cabin.
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    Then apparently decided to start playing with centre consoles haha
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    Take it easy,
    Squish
     
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    Well, it's been a long time. Over a year between updates in fact, and tomorrow marks three years since I started this thread. Gotten busy with life again, and have spent very little time down at the shed actually working. A couple of months ago, started looking to get back into it and here's where we're at.

    I suppose to start with, we drilled a new hole and roughly mounted up the coolant bottle.
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    Considering painting the whole engine Holden Blue for laughs.
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    Next up, I picked up this. Considering mounting it in it's original position (it still has it's connectors and everything) and hiding my aftermarket, but not sure where since I like to fiddle with the volume and stuff often.
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    While taking out the dash and carpet, getting ready to put in aircon and wiring, etc, we found a little rust which we traced backed and up the window. DSC_0373.jpg DSC_0374.jpg DSC_0312.JPG DSC_0292.JPG

    Got the wiring a little more sorted and thinned out.
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    New radiator support panel. DSC_0730.jpg
     
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    I knew my headlight covers were faded, but didn't quite realise until I put these new ones in front of them.
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    Found a bunch of bog behind the tail lights (also, pretty sure this is the first photo of the rear on here).
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    And here she is as she sits now.
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    Next couple of steps involve getting this rust sorted, and getting memcal tuned and the pcm modded.

    Thanks for reading through.
     
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    Aftermarket unit hasn't got a remote ?
     
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    It does have a remote, but I kinda like being able to have everything in reach. Also, I am putting A/C in and don't particularly want to mount it in the glove box so I'm not sure where else to put it?
     

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