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Discussion in 'VE Holden Commodore (2006 - 2013)' started by gt3540rx, Jun 16, 2011.

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    If you want to keep it mostly stock.

    Tune, Disable V8 Mode, Diff Back Exhaust(big mufflers). The bigger the box the less drone. Sound Deaden Boot Floor.
     
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    MAF or MAFLESS?

    How much for the OTR mate?
     
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    maf tune, OTR cost $600 with in-fill panel to cover where standard airbox was.
    The tuner told the misses he didnt adjust the throttle much because we had child seats in the back, what do you reckon he meant by that?
    Ive gotta take the car back anyways because he didnt disable the afm like i asked, so ill ask him about the throttle adjustment then, but would be nice to know what he was on about before i get there.
     
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    i got mine done 2 weeks ago by G-Force Performance in Gateshead. I have a pod type CAI and Hurricane extractors and 2 1/2" system. The tune was a MAF tune and he squeezed an extra 40 rwhp out of it.... it's not the amount of power so much as the way it now drives and accelerates!! it's an amazing difference! He disabled the gear change torque management or what ever it is that drops power in the engine during gear changes so now it actually launches when it changes gears under acceleration either in auto or in tiptronic. Plus the rev limiter has been changed from 6,200rpm to 6,800 rpm because he said it was still making power when it reached the rev limiter. Plus he said that in the VE when you mash the loud pedal, the throttle only opens to about 75% and slowly works it's way to full throttle..... now if i mash the go pedal, it goes to 100% straight away.
    After it was tuned, i drove to Bowral and back along the Putty Road with a trailer on for a total trip of about 800km and got 11.3/100 out of it!
    Highly recommend G-Force. Great job! :)
     
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    If i want to gain a crap load more, a mild cam would be the go..... and a lower diff centre. That may well be on cards, depends on whether or not i decide to buy a GTS or not.
     
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    Nice work! Sounds like they are up to the task over at G-Force
     
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    Yeah Glenn is a great bloke who knows his stuff... been in business there for 18 years
     
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    Ok, being left a little underwhelmed by my otr & tune results, I'm thinking about exhaust mods now.
    Having an auto wagon I'm looking at the kpm 2.5 system, but are struggling with the 4.5k fitted price.
    Are there any better value for money header & cats that will bolt up 2 the kpm cat back?
    My father inlaw is a mechanic with a hoist, so I'd like 2 install ourselves if it wouldn't b 2 hard.
     
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    I have a 2.5" lukey cat back in stainless, it was $1600 fitted (pacemaker mufflers in this system sound great with no drone at all.

    I can get pacemaker extractors for $620 off bestmufflers.com and 200 cel pacy cats for $210 ea so that's approx $3000 for full system fitted)..

    I have the cat back on and will be getting the rest soon..

    No way I'd be paying a extra $1500 for KPM which is only marginally better.. But that's my opinion (not starting a argument)

    Brad
     
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    Why would you disable torque management on the auto? I looked into this but most people told me not to as it will put to much stress on the autobox ... Basically give it a couple of months before issues start coming up .
     
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    Thanks for the honest response mate, i was mainly looking at KPM because they guarantee no drone. But from what ive just read on there website, they no longer guarantee this with the wagons anymore because some have & some havent.
    Drone will be a bigger issue for me than yourself because you have a ute, but i may have try & find someone with your setup on a wagon.

     
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    You know if you don't want to spend so much, you can just replace the extractor and cats, and that'll still give some power increase. Your tune might need to be adjusted. It also won't make any drone because you'll keep the stock mufflers which are really effective obviously. I've just read this, it's not personal experience (yet).

    I read that basically its impossible to have a full exhaust system (including catback) and have AFM on; you must disable it. If you have it off, then you can get exhausts with no drone fairly easily.

    I'm getting my wagon CAI and tune done on Friday, but not dyno'd so I won't have that figure. I'm currently deciding whether to get my extractors done too, or not.
     
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    when it changes, it doesn't thump into gear. It changes just like it always has, just now, it doesn't lag between changes like it used to. This bloke has been tuning for 18 years, and he has done a lot of VE's as well. I trust him. He is also doing a street friendly gearbox computer mod as well... the one he has is very harsh and although it works great on the track, it's not very good on the road. Once he has completed it, i'm going back down to have it done.
     
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    Confirm this was just OTR and Mafless tune? You got a 30rwkw increase, thats not bad.

    If you get the exhaust, tune and OTR done you shound get between 250-270rwkw. There are many too many variables, including how happy the dyno is. Brads dyno is pretty good though. I got Pacemaker 1 3/4" 4>1 exhaust, OTR, tune, cam, diff and had the heads ported. End result? 315rwkw. And I'm not at all worried that others get 330+ on other dynos, its just a number. Because the chances are, my car really only does 315rwkw, and if you are going to compare number ie mine is bigger than yours - it needs to be done on the same day, same dyno.

    And get Pacies like i listed above, had them twice, they are awesome.
     
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    i got my ve ss tuned by wa performance.. vcm otr and tune stock exhaust and made 324 rwhp and ran a 12.91 sec pass at 173kph really impressed with it
     
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    I have a full xforce system including extractors 2.5" with 100cell stainless cats. no drone at all at any speed. did a 160k round trip. the car is pretty quite at idle and when your driving it below 3000rpm it doesn't give you an earful but when you put your foot down it really does give it that amazing v8 sound. there is no back off noise, no popping and crackling when you come down gears (i.e 2nd from 80 to 40km/h engine breaking) like you hear with other systems. I have compared this with the 3" system which drones pretty bad. the vcm system sounds like poo (there is a ute here with it) and the defillipo system gives you horrible back off noise. I have also heard good things about the pacemakers but can only comment on them in the ford world of things and again compared to defillipo for fords they sound 100 times better.

    when it comes to installing extractors on ve's you have to undo the power stearing rack to change them so you need some kind of mechanical knowledge and be prepared to spend 2-5 hours doing it.

    hope that helps
     
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    worked out to around 21rwkw from OTR & tune.
    Brad did say i should get 250rwkw ish if i did the full exhaust.
    I can feel the difference from 3k to redline, definitely feels like 10% more power now its tuned.
    I was a little surprised with the output figure as most claim around 230rwkw with my mods, but then again most say they pull 210 stock & i got 190. Maybe its just different dyno's being happier than others.
    Im still a little uncertain about doing the exhaust as i really dont want this car to be very loud. Brad suggested changing to a 3.7 diff if i want more go & still look & sound stock
     
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    where are you located mate? I can do a video of mine inside the car if you want to have a listen. ill use the radio volume as a comparison to how loud the exhaust is haha

    i made 254rwkw with the same mods.. full exhaust otr and tune. but my tuner said is hould make 265-270 and the fuel i'm using is **** so it's going back to get retuned after ive put bpultimate98 through it a few times
     
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    I second that comment - Mine runs like a bag of **** with standard 91..

     
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    Hey guys ive got a Vz sv6 and lookin to get an exhaust, I'm either goin the 2.25 or 2.5inch catback, any thoughts on what will give it some noise also power?
     

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