Woudering about teaching manual in VE sv6 sidi to learner drivers is it bad of they stall thr car constantly and make it jerk and all that sort of stuff that happens when you first begin?
The clutch will get a workout and probably need changing earlier, but no real mechanical harm will come to your car. Asthetics (paintwork, rims, scratches etc)... well, that's different . Just remember what you were like when learning... hill starts, riding the clutch, unable to judge distances (parrallel parking, gutter rash on rims, little dings here and there on body work). But an engine constantly stalling and being restarted wont harm it. A long drive on a hwy to get it nice and hot and clear out any build up (and recharge the battery from being constantly used to start the car), will fix any issues that may arise.
Its definitely not good for the car. My young bloke was doing learner driver training through joblink plus, they picked him up one day in a brand new 5 speed manual toyota yarris, it had around 20 km on the clock, the young bloke said when he got back that the car drove beautifully as you would expect.. A couple of weeks later they picked him up again in the same car, and when he got back, he said that the car was completely different to drive, the wheel alignment was out from where it was, and it didnt steer as well, and the clutch was coming right up to the very last bit of the pedal stroke before it would bite, so it doesnt take long for the clutches etc to wear down when youve got learner drivers slipping/riding it all the time when theyre first trying to learn how to use it properly.
It's to be expected Brett... learners hitting gutters and wearing out the clutch is one thing, but I think OP was talking about the jerking and stalling of the engine. At least that's how I took it. I think one thing the OP needs to check however is insurance issues. Pretty sure if you are constantly taking learner drivers out in your car your premium is going to change.
Oh, now I understand. Take a 30cm metal ruler with you. Everytime they stall it, smack them over the knuckles with the ruler. They won't do it too many times.
my brother is learning on mine, it's pretty normal even my dad struggles with it...it's not an easy car to drive compared to a 4cyl car and it's probably best you don't through him into the deep end
my dad used to make me hill start on the boat ramp next to the river. I learned how to use a manual pretty quick.
You recently started another thread where you were having troubles stalling / bunny-hopping the car etc. And now you're teaching others to drive? Are you sure this "learner" isn't you?
I would get them to learn in a manual for all their other car control learning and then pay for them to learn how to drive a manual in a driving instructors car, well worth the "couple of hungies" to save wear and tear on your clutch
I was talking to a driving instructor a while back who had just replaced the first clutch in his yaris after 120,000 ks. He said if you teach people to drive properly they are only hard on the car for the first few minutes you ever spend with them. Then he took me from never having driven one to being 100% confident in 30mins so I guess if you teach the person properly the car should be fine
I didnt say it wasnt to be expected, I was just using this as an example of how quickly the parts of the car can get worn when inexperienced drivers trying to learn to drive in it.
The guy must not have been teaching many people if he got 120,000 from it before it needed replacing, because the guy who does the driver training from joblink told my young bloke that they go through cluches a lot in the learner cars.( either adjustment or replacement). This car only had a few hunded K's on it the second time my young bloke drove it, and the clutch was already worn and releasing near the end of its travel, so Id love to see one last for 120,000 km in one of these learner cars.... Theres no way every single person learning to drive is gonna pick up using a clutch properly straight up, no matter who's teaching them, so obviously its gonna cop some sort of a floggin from people who dont "get it" straight away.
As others have said - driving instructor's car = the way to go. No bloody way would I attempt to teach someone manual in a VE...I remember when I first learnt to drive manual, I sucked. No bloody way would I have wanted to drive a car as valuable as a VE that early. (for what its worth, first manual I drove = late 90's Mitsubishi Mirage :thumbsup
I have taught four sons to drive so far, all in Commodore 6 cyl manuals. I agree that the first lesson has to focus just on using the clutch. Generally takes less than half an hour, and then I don't have any issues. My VL was still on the original clutch when I sold it with 150K on it. The VS II clutch was replaced at about 180K. The VY II and VE clutches were original, though I traded both of those before 80K. haven't taught anybody on the VE II yet.
thanks for the support and help boys i couldent care less about the clutch its a brand new car so and the only reason I asked is because is they stall or make the car jerk or forget to take it out of gear and stop at the lights and the car jerks/shakes and stalls if thats not bad for the car if stalling constantly and not getting clean gear changes all the time isnt bad for the car I couldent careless ve's are pretty strong especially sidi's
