Thank you Apple!

acarmody - not sure if serious?

All jeans have front pockets.

 

I really wasn't taking the piss.

I just went and pulled a sent of jeans from my cupboard, I see now.

Anyone want to guess how often I wear jeans?

This is 90% of my pants wearing



And good on me for changing the topic of this thread from Apple to what pants I wear.

 

Stop trying to defend it raj (You sound like a fanboy already). It's a clear fault if the guy who did the bend test already noticed a slight bend in the phone after a few days of use, before he even did the test. He then went on to bend it with his bare hands. He tried a few other current model phones which do not bend (including the normal iphone 6).

You saying hipsters with skinny jeans are to blame sounds just like Steve jobs saying the reception issues with the older ipones are because people are holding the phone wrong. Blaming users for poor product design is such a piss poor copout.

Anyway the link you posted seems a bit full of it. I've got an iPhone 4 and Xperia z1 in the house. I can tell you after years of use and me just then trying to bend them just now, They clearly don't have the same issue as the 6 plus. Also the iPhone 5 was put through the same test in the video of the other phones and clearly does not bend as easily as the 6 plus.

Anyway can't wait to see what Apple say about this one.

 

I am a massive Android fan, and hate Apple with a passion. But this is not a design flaw, or Apples fault. No where in the spec sheet or in any requirements does it (or in any phone) have a bending force spec. Apple never said it will take the force, and there is no requirement to take "X" force.

If you think this is an issue for yourself than buy a different phone. Just like people didn't buy the S5 because it still has a plastic back, people didn't buy the S5, One XL, LG Xperia, or whatever because it didn't fit in their pockets (irony).

Buy a phone to your own needs, if one of those needs is that it needs to take lateral force in your pocket, buy a different phone.

 

Doesnt bend with a case

[video=youtube_share;aUqyu2ZNo5o]http://youtu.be/aUqyu2ZNo5o[/video]

 

Sure ok then not apples fault and not a design requirement. I can get that.

For the record I wouldn't have bought one anyway for my own personal preference.

I just don't get how it's the users fault.

So in conclusion, If you're a hipster who wears skinny jeans don't buy a 6 plus because it's too **** and it will bend.

 

Well it is the users fault.

I would have thought it was common sense to not put place large amounts of bending force on a small thin piece of electrical equipment.

I don't bend my laptop, I don't bend my tablet, I don't bend my computer monitor (not small), I don't try and bend a PCB board.

What I've taken from all this, is that Gorilla Glass is some very tough glass. Never seen such thin glass take so much punishment.

 

We'll I guess it is the users fault then.

Call me old fashioned but I thought it would have been common sense for a portable device that is usually kept in ones pocket to be designed to have the structural rigidity to withstand such punishment. But that's just my opinion.

Yeah the glass is pretty impressive though. Good to see they have resolved that old chestnut.

Anyway we'll just have to wait and see what Apple has to say about it.

 

Having said this, a majority of people place their phones in their pockets when out and about (unless they're glued to the ####ing things while walking in a zombie like fashion).

A leading phone company (Apple/Samsung/HTC, ETC), if they wanted to avoid such critisism and backlash (which this has caused), should have tested this throughout the design phase, and they have failed to comprehend with the majority of the public and how they carry their phone.

Not defending apple as much as I dislike Apple products, I would say the same about any other phone company.

 

Have had my Note3 since shortly after it was released without bending it yet. Not heard of any incidences of it happening although I'm sure anything is possible. It is possible to make a large phone that is rigid

 

Just because

 

why should apple design a phone to withstand bending in a pocket? unless you carry handfuls loose gravel in there. or extra tough glass just in case it's dropped or accidentally bent? phones are not designed to be bent, that's why they made it thin. why make it thick on purpose just in case some peanut decides to wear extra tight jeans that could bend it?

can you see Jony Ive and his mob sitting around a table somewhere discussing that maybe, just maybe someone somewhere might wear extra tight pants and that could possibly bend the device and that because of that, they should make the phone thicker? it really is a one in a million scenario that's been blown right out of proportion simply because it's apple and apple is one of the most talked about businesses there ever was or has been. maybe they should make all Mac laptops waterproof too because maybe, just maybe someone might spill a glass of water on their computer and bitch all over the internet that therefore all apple laptops are crap because it failed because they spilt a glass of water on it?

they won't say a word because they won't admit fault and rightfully so. if you spend $1000 on a piece of electronics, common sense to me says that it's up to the user to look after it.

 

Source: Apple Will Replace A Bent iPhone 6 Plus, On One Condition

 

Why should they design a device to withstand bending in a pocket?? Well with pretty much any consumer goods the product manager would consider any number of factors such as:

Likely places where the consumer would carry the device when they are just out and about??? A: Pocket/handbag/manbag.

Of the above I carry my phone (somewhat larger than the IP6) in my pocket. Have done so far without any bending what so ever. By virtue this problem has been identified so quickly after it's release suggests there is a problem. People have been doing it for the 30 or so years that we have had mobile phones, now it appears that Apple have produced an otherwise popular product that risks bending if you do.

Well from early reports, probably they should have.

Actually it's not.

once again, actually it's not. We are talking about what is now a standard consumer product that everybody has that appears to be fragile in normal use.

TBH a water resistant notebook/tablet would be a great idea however it's not expected by the population and in the 30 or so years of their existence, nobody has expected that they be waterproof and thus it's not a relevant analogy.

Ok - I've had mobile phones for 20+ years. Been storing them in my pocket when out and about for all of that time. Now it appears that there is a model which we shouldn't do that - fair enough, just keep in mind that the average (non tech geek) public will see it as a negative when deciding on their purchase. Also, for the record I have had 2 apple iPhones, both were very tough (1 of them fell from a roof I was working on that was approx 10m above the ground and lived without a scratch) so durability hasn't been a problem in the past. (I'm not suggesting they should be designed to be dropped 10m but in reality millions are dropped from normal height to the floor every day so it is a consideration)

 

I just watched the video of old mate bending the +. Either he's as wimpy as I assume or it actually takes a fair whack of force (or both). Few teacups must have died in this storm.