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Discussion in 'Telly Talk' started by Skydrol, Nov 19, 2016.

  1. Tonner Matt

    Tonner Matt Well-Known Member

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    I watched a few episodes of the American Top Gear a while back and thought it was alright.
    Only other thing I really have to say about that show is.....Damn Tanner Foust can drive
     
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    Watched a bit of an episode of Top Gear USA with Matt LeBlanc hosting.

    So the British Top Gear is having a rest? or is Matt LeBlanc doing it for both?
     
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    The US Top Gear is bland for my taste. Foust, no doubt about it, can drive the wheels off anything. As a host.... is almost as exiciting as Sabine Schmitz. The other guys seems ok but their frienships feels forced and scripted. Amazon's TGT (Top Gear UK) is highly scripted, but have a natural feel to it.

    On the last Episode on TGT, Season 2, the one in Africa. May, filled the fish tank with sea water, splashed all over himself when he was trying to get the Benz rolling. I believe, that part was not on the script, was purely an unintended consequence, just by looking at Jeremy's and Richard's laugh.

    After so many years and shows, you can pick on what is scripted and what is not.

    I think, the formula these 3 guys have will be very hard to duplicate.
     
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    uniacidz Harden the Frak Up

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    Top Gear US. - The new format and hosts are just meh. I even stopped watching it and would rather watch Married at First sight.

    I miss Tanner Foust, Rutledge and Adam.

    Whilst more challenge based, I enjoyed it heaps.

    Top Gear UK. - Better now and slowly getting better. Audience is now larger in the studio and enjoying again.

    The Grand a tour - the new target for other shows to strive for and the best. Scripted mostly but the trio cannot be replicated
     
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    Get rid of Richard Hammond.
     
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    Yeah, do like top gear uk , the grand tour more, was enjoying a few beers and this one was on after the footy, v8s ,mustang , had to watch.
     
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    The Hamster is fine, is like the underdog of the trio. Also, he is the "American" of the group. Kind of off key, but is fine with me. How he discribe himself, Pikey when he was demonstrating the Maloo?
     
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    Cannot find the video when he placed a Pie and a Key on the bonnet... anyway... he tears it up!



    He tested the saloon...



    And the good ol' Jeremy no to far behind :D

     
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    uniacidz Harden the Frak Up

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    Ah... you found it.
     
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    Anybody saw Season 3 1st episode?
     
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    Yeah! Loved it!
     
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    Saw a Deamon at the dealer. Was quoted at $120,000 and is true, the passenger seat is optional, the Roll Cage is part of the frame. Someone in town ordered, I was welcome to see, not to touch. Is one mean ride and is a true drag car, daily driver... not so. Get this, the salesman told me, the bloke bought for his wife a SRT Dodge Durango. So was a Deamon for him, a SRT Durango for her... must be a loaded fücker.
     
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    So, is Detroit really as bad as what TGT made out?
     
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    Yes, Detriot is bankrupt, corrupted, poluted and crime infested. A compounded issue of Economics, Regulations (Gov Intervention)and Socialism.

    All boils down to once the Automotive Mecca ruined by Gov Agency (EPA) Regulations. They enforced a tough Smog "Law" and on top of that, due to removing the Dollar from its Gold Backed Standard (Bretton Woods) and switched to the Oil Backed Dollar (Petrodollar, drop on purchasing power) along with the CAFE Standard (fuel ecoonomy). On top of that, Insurance Companies lobbied for the 5 MPH Bumpers (Tougher Safety Standards). Unions also had their fair share of the problem.

    Car Mfgs scrambled to comply, produced low quality guttless vehicles and people gravitate to cheaper, economy Japanese cars. Due to the Yen that was back then some like Y700.00 : $1.00 the cars were better build and cheaper on the US market. In other words, they sold better build cars because of the Currency Exchange Rate. In order to stay proffitable, Mfgs move production Mexico and other 3rd World Nations. Also, forced to engage on the practice of Badge Engineering. Since they had a series of divisions to maintain, they designed and build a vehicle and changed some cosmetic fearures to cater the divisions. Just like the Pontiac G8 and Commodore VE or the VF with the Chevrolet SS. At least they made the effort to make the Pontiac a bit diffrent, but the SS was straight rebadging.

    Back in the 70s, a Datsun B210 or a Toyota Corolla was a gutless piece of garbage. Could not compete on the US Hwy on ride and comfort. Tough market for them until the "Oil Embargo".

    If you watched the movie "Robo Cop" is loosly based on Detroit's debacle and a "Fascist" Corp Take Over (Omni Corp).

    I was surprised they did not went to the Packard Building, they drove by it though.

    On the Way-Back Time Machine, back in 1997...

    Clarkson decided to use an abandoned train station as a film set and accidentally wandered into a gang's hideout.

    https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/thedrive/news/25912/jeremy-clarkson-was-held-at-gunpoint-while-filming-top-gear-in-detroit?source=dam
     
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    I just talk to a guy at work that was born and grew up in Detroit during the 60s and 70s.

    What I just said, plug this behind it on the time frame.

    55 to 65...

    He said Detroit's hayhay was some between 55s to 65s. During that time, Civil Right movement mobs came in and rioted. The people with money left the city to the suburbs. At the end, a lot of them, just packed and left to another state.

    He said that was that bad, houses and business were burned down or looted to the point that looked like a War Zone in Syria. His dad worked for GM so he can only account for GM but I bet, the rest did the same thing.

    Late 60s to mid 70s....

    GM became a Real State company by purchasing Executives/Workers(depend on skills) houses and moving them to another plants around the US. The problem, people (locals without a job) could not afford the houses/mansions and left to decay. GM was selling the houses to employees at a huge loss and as an incentive, the employee can go to any dealer and pick any car (GM on this case) of your choice, with all options for free and will park it in the house garage. That worked to an extend but the area was already crime/riot infested.

    Now, back to the 70s and on...

    The city fire brigades were overburden of house burnings because the Homeless became Squatters. Since no utilities are available and Michican is bitter cold, people lighted fires (fire on episode) to keep themselves warmed or to cook. Due to carelessness, the houses burn, leaving it burned and/or delapidated

    Detroit named those abandoned houses an Eminent Domain and place them on the auction block. The catch was, you can get a huge house next to nothing, but you have to fix it and up keep. Some houses were so bad that nobody wanted them on a bad area in the town. The city plowed the houses to avoid squaters. On those empty lots, the city started to develop the Urban Farming program.


    To put it all in one....

    60s Civil Right Movement Riots, Decline of the Dollar, Oil Embargo, Mfg Outsourced (bad business practices/car purchases decline/Gov Regulations), Social Programs (taxation population assistance). Talk about the most Perfect Shlt Storm.

    I can say, that is the backdrop on that TGT Episode.
     
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    Did you guys watched the 2 part episode about Colombia? Interesting one, did not knew anything about the bears. I wonder if they climbed the same Volcano they did on an previous Top Gear challenge, the one about South America. Looks like the same road to me.

    Funny thing is, took a CUCV which is a Military Version of the Chevrolet Blazer with a 6.2L Diesel engine. To say some abou it, the Wiki has this.

    "M1009: Utility version of the Chevrolet K5 Blazer. The M1009 is a utility rig built from a Blazer and could be used for command and control, as well as officer transport. Often seen with radio sets installed, however the large square tube stock mounts prevented the rear seat from being lowered. The M1009 was rated for a 1,200 lb (540 kg) payload and a 3,000 lb (1,400 kg) towed load. It used the heaviest duty GM springs available for the chassis and the rear axle was a 10-bolt unit. It rolled on 10.00-15 tires, had 3.08 gears and a rear Eaton automatic differential lock."

    Took that thing on the side of Mauna Kea by Pohakuloa Training Area, through some volcanic ashes. When I got to the top, met with some of our Scouts on HMMWVs. They were baffled on how I got the CUCV where only Hummers can go. Easy, driving skills and know where to plant the wheels. I was telling the wife, how the "Hamster" was driving the Pick Up like an AWD instead of a 4x4.
     

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