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Discussion in 'VF Holden Commodore (2013 - 2017)' started by 426Cuda, Dec 10, 2019.
no way if you want to go that era HSV or go home.
I wouldn't say no to a 5L VT SS in tiger orange!
Fine for younger players. I'm not in the least bit interested in HSV type performance. A stock LS1 Calais is quite sufficient.
The best VT colour. Still looks good today.
Must have V8? I liked the super 6. It even sounded good to me.
I looked that up a week or so ago ... the Tiger Mica was actually a Series II colour, went with the release of the LS1 here.
Totally not as I remembered it!!
You may go down in history as the only person ever to say they liked the sound of an Ecomoo ...
Possibly however you won't get one close to the SS/Calais money to begin with. In fairness there are only selected HSV's over the journey which go close to deserving the premium price tag.
My E3 was debatable (as much as I liked that car). Hard to argue against the LSA's, W427, Callaway VTII GTS, any of the 5.7L VR/S/T's and the niche (very under rated IMO) VP Clubby 5000i and VP GTS's, VN SV5000 to name a few that delivered significant performance upgrades for the money. For the most part though the Clubby/Sen/GTS were not much more than their respective Holden spec cars with a loud body kit and sometimes bigger brakes.
Do you mean on the used market, or when new?
When new the HSV's were (to my memory at least) significantly more expensive, you could always throw aftermarket parts at a particular car & it'd cost less than buying the HSV which had had "the same mods".
Or a 195kw iron lion VT Calais for less than $10k ? With decent kms too.
Not my car or any thing to do with me....just came up on today's Street Machine email.
I had VT S L67. It had HSV exhaust, yella terra roller rockers, hsv Cai, xu6 memcal and smaller pulley...
Exhaust sound was fine but M90 eaton whine was epic !
Loved it !
Forg said "You may go down in history as the only person ever to say they liked the sound of an Ecomoo" ...
Nah - I meant the whine of the Eaton supercharger when you pressed down hard on the right hand pedal.
Standard Ecotec engine is not so delightful to listen to.
I'll go home then.... to a stock (other than extractors 2.5 twin straight true dual and hi flo cats.... even has original cassette player and wind up windows) manual 5l VT SS in heron white that I love more every day
Not too fast.......which means you get to enjoy the sound for longer as the corrolla youre racing disappears up the road. Like a nice wine. To be consumed slowly and with enjoyment
There are so many... I want them al.lol.
But it is a bargain hunters paradise atm. And umlike the old Chryslers that could be had for a carton of VB and are now pulling North of $200k, or any of the very desirable and even slower Holden or Ford muscle cars from the 60's and 70"s, they are cheap!!!
Try a tidy S1 VT Cluby R8 manual, with Coulson seats etc etc that sold for $6,500 recently. I should have bought it. Even my Son's VE LS3 R8 man in voodoo. Looks and sounds horn and what a fun car to drive All for $19k!
They're out there everywhere. But, they won't last forever at the current bargain basement prices.
This is digressing a long way from the original thread but it has a tiny bit of relevance. In 1979, my drive was an HT Premier with 327 and Saginaw 4 speed. For a single bloke it was all I wanted. However, matrimony loomed and the price of fuel had started to rise rapidly. (from 15.7 cents per litre to about 20cpl in 6 to 8 months). As well, the other half couldn't drive the car, it was way too heavy in steering, clutch and gear change for her.
I put the car on consignment and we bought a Mazda 1500 SS. It was light, easy to drive, very cheap and gave over 40 mpg cruising. The Premier was more like 13 mpg. We drove the Mazda for a month while the Premier failed to sell. I had to pick it up from the dealer and remember being absolutely astonished at the grunt of the Premier after only a month in the Mazda. That Premier was a beautiful 4 door Monaro equivalent, but fuel prices were killing V8 values at the time and it took me many months before I was able to find a buyer.
Monaros CV8 still pull big $$$
In the modern times I don't understand the small SUV buying they don't have grunt fuel economy is AVG and handling is AVG, rather a commie any day
It's the ease of access that causes people to buy SUV's rather than sedans or hatchbacks. Remember that performance isn't important to many people. Modern SUV's are a lot better at handling than even five years ago. They have a full range of electronic driving assist equipment in many cases. They don't appeal to everybody, but sedans appeal to far fewer.
They'll be undervalued used up and crushed in their thousands. I wish it was otherwise.
FJ Holdens were worth $50 in the early 1970s. Mostly worn out relics, and disposed of.
Yeah, lots will. But mainly povo packs I hope. Still, it's a good incentive to grab something nice now at the right price.
It's funny I'm watching my mother in law struggling to get in her little SUV shitbox, gets in the commodore easy, getting out a bit harder though. I can get it a Heap more shopping in my boot than hers. I just don't get it.
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