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Discussion in 'The Pub' started by RUF-60L, Jul 13, 2011.
Did I miss something (other than life and the weird looks from my missus I'm ignoring)?
Mehhhh, duddent matta
Give it time. Some-one may will forget to take his happy pills, and fall out of the tree again.
So my job is helping people who have met hard times. My pet hate is people coming in who say to you, can I come back in a few weeks if I am not happy with the free beds you are offering me today???? I said no, we are offering this to you as a once off... Migrants are the worst for it..... This was just today. I even had some lady come in a few months back asking if she could return the second hand bed she bought off one of our charity shops and then I arrange for it to be given to her for free..... Some people think we are an endless resource with loads of money..... Come on people, if we had endless amounts of money I would actually work more than the 18hrs a week my organisation can afford to pay me.
I could be wrong, but I suspect our young friend could be sorrily disappointed; since it would appear he is having some fairly high expectations, of what may not, actually eventuate.... Guess time will tell. Like I said I could be wrong.....
WTF! it's Saturday night 10pm and the local burger king and burger fuel are closed, drive though only with huge lines. WTF, can't even sit down to have a crap burger and I can't stoop low enough to go to macca's as you may as well save the middle man and just throw the burger straight in the bin.
Fast Food, yeah right...
Probably should be in the political thread; but I really shits me when I hear pensioners who are on $905 a fortnight winge about how poor they are and need to be wrapped in blankets because they can not pay their electricity bill. Shits me because I work and my entire wage is only $5 a fortnight more than that and I have to either spend $9 a day to get the bus five days a week or I can drive and pay $17 a day in parking and petrol. Where as the only travel a pensioner has to do is to drive to Coles once or twice a week to buy groceries and maybe a Dr's appointment once a fortnight. I also pay a mortgage so don't get rent assistance of $150 a fortnight from Centrelink on top of what they get in their pension cheques.... My mum is an old age pensioner and she hears the same BS I hear.... Learn to live within your means peeps and stop coming in and seeing me for food vouchers and hardship payments on your power bill, when your on the Disability Pension or old age pension...
Wait till you get to pension age................
Enlighten me because I can't figure out when people on the same income as me need food vouchers and electricy bills paid, when they don't even need to pay for work expenses like travel. I could quite easily live on $905 a fortnight if i didn't have a $120 a fortnight petrol bill as well as another 80 a fortnight in bus fares.....
My two bobs worth as a recipient of the age pension since April 2017.
I also receive a superannuation payment so the pension is reduced by about 50%. However, pensioners in NSW receive free license and rego, public transport at $2.50 per day regardless of number of journeys, reduced rates, water, power, phone, prescriptions, bulk billing and probably a number of other items I've omitted. They total up to quite a fair amount but I suspect that a lot of older pensioners, particularly women who may not have worked for many years, have little or no idea how much the full cost is for some of these things. In my opinion, many of them are ungrateful, selfish whinging old bastards who should just shut up.
Buy less drugs? Cut back drinking to 40 schooners a week?
Not to be flippant but some pensioners I know do it pretty hard. Same as going on about people being on the dole, paying rent and trying to live on the dole is not easy, then you have to put up with Centrelink. Have you tried to contact Centrelink?
If there's no gain in working and bastards treat workers like crap and under pay them then why would you work? If it's as easy as you say then goen doit, go on the dole and kick back.
I'm not bagging out people on Newstart who genuinely can not get a job. At my job the ones who are working their arse off to find a job but only get Newstart are the ones i go above to do what i can to help. I understand how its tough on Newstart. But when I see people on almost double the Newstart rate winge about how the Gov needs to give them more money because they can not get by, then tell me where you spend all your money? Because if they dont have a $200 a fortnight travel bill as well as a mortgage then they should be able to afford food.....
Yes i agree Bald Old Fart that people on welfare payments should spend less on booze, pokies and drugs. Maybe then i would see less people who should be able to get by on DSPs and Aged Pensions. IMHO the best form of welfare is wages from working. Because I dare say that if someone actually worked for their money then they would be a whole lot more careful with what they spend it on... Just saying.
Without going into too much personal detail, I’m in the same boat as Calaber. Yep, NSW is pretty good for oldies.
I think I’m doing OK, thanks to some forethought on my part …… that being superannuation, working, putting up with s*** at work that a lot would say ‘stick your job’, and forgoing the latest and greatest what-evers of the time.
I know a lot of blokes where I last worked were quite happy to just accept the super guarantee levy. I was encouraged to switch from a contributory defined benefit scheme to the ‘new, improved, more money in your weekly pocket’ accumulation scheme, but refused. By doing that I was not eligible for the levy, and was probably getting $250 less cash in pocket per fortnight than co-workers at the time. But it has proved to be the right decision.
I cannot understand how old age pensioners complain about rent and living costs being unaffordable. They had the chance 50 years ago to buy and pay off a house. They had their chances at a lot of opportunities in life, but preferred pokies / cigarettes / horses / booze / holidays on credit cards.
I’m not talking from a lofty castle on theocraticals, I have rellies that seem to crap in their nest every time they appear to be getting ahead. I see it happening, and don’t understand it. Maybe I’m just a cold hearted bastard.
Let me give a Tas example. Aged pensioner $455 a week. 130 Week public rent, 40 a week in power, 20 a week in scripts, before they hit the threshold and get scripts for free. That leaves 255 a week for groceries, food and entertainment. Even owning a car would still leave 150 a week for groceries yet I hear it a lot; How can I be expected to live on the pension?? Concessions on utilities and entry fees to most places, bus fares half price. Trouble is in Aust we have so many people who have a sense of entitlement. When I'm on reception cover and people book an appointment to see me or the boss, I get the "am I entitled to my voucher" at least once in the hour I'm on cover. I hear the girls saying to people a lot who ask the question, about getting a voucher, the girls say "what you receive will be up to the caseworker". We have people that cry poor and then when you say we can only help with a food parcel, say "that's ok I will try and get through"... Or you take them through to the food room and they grab biscuits and cordial and nothing much else.
If make your guys feel better, the USA is in the same boat. Currency devaluation, higher prices, shrinking workforce. The solution is either print more currency and/or higher taxation. Is a snake eating its tail.
The solution is to stop the greedy capitalist pig conglomerates avoiding tax.
Capitalism is not the problem, are the Socialist wanting more free shlt and a bloated corrupted Gov Co doing favors to their corporate buddies.
Jobs are not there anymore, when I left school you could get a job anywhere. Apprenticeships were abundant, the local power company (now all privatised) used to employ 40 new kids every year alone. Every car dealership put on 6 or so new apprentice's, you could get a job doing anything.
Now the only work seems to be working in fast food, cafe's or cleaning and making beds in motels. Now it costs for further education through Une's we are loosing our smarter population. Most in power now have led a privileged life with free Une education, conservative leaders changed that, it now costs hundreds of thousands to get higher education.
What would you rather, the people who can't find jobs live under town bridges and rob people to survive or get paid to help them survive with some dignity?
What are you suggestions for more jobs?
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