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Discussion in 'VF Holden Commodore (2013 - 2017)' started by justice4all3000, Oct 29, 2018.

  1. justice4all3000

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    Hi I plan on towing with my vf calais how do I find the capacity of the towbar fitted and if my car has the super lift shock absorbers fitted?

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    There should be a towbar placard near tyre one (inside drivers door jamb) They stick these on when the tow bar is fitted.This will give your towing capacity. Not sure about superlifts sorry.
     
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    If the towbar is genuine Holden, I know with the VE that the flat tongue type are 1200Kg only, the square hitch type is 1600Kg rated if no Weight Distribution hitch or Super lift shocks, or 2100Kg with WDH and/or Superlift shocks.
     
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    Does it have a flat tongue (normally 1200 kgs) or does it have a square Hayman Reese type hitch normally 1600 or 2100 kgs), mine has a plate welded under the tow bar with the specs on it and is a genuine bar.
     
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    The law requires some for of label is attached to either the tow bar itself or the vehicle b-pillar which lists the towball weight and trailer weight that can be towed. If there is no label, go back to the dealer where you purchased it and get them to fit a label to it... If you bought it private, or had the tow bar fitted at some place other than a Holden dealer, they should add the label.

    As for superlift shocks, these use air to adjust the rear vehicle height so there should be a valve that you use to pump them up to raise the rear or let the air out to lower the rear. It looks just like a tyre valve and should be placed near the rear tow bar or in the boot. There is an accessories PDF within the forum that lists the install of superlift shocks... if I find where I’ll add a link to it... here it is...
     
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    Thanks for all the replies guys I have found the label I have had a look around the towbar I can't see any valve so I don't think I have the rear shocks
     
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    wetwork65 A wet business

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    My height levelling shocks had air bags integrated at their base which had air lines leading to them to basically pump them up. In my case, there was an air pump activated by the level on the drive shaft height. Maybe take a look at the back shocks to see if they have the bags?
     
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    This is on mine as haven't fitted it yet.
     

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    No plate is welded to the 2100kg tow bar of my MSE (that i can see). There is a Holden sticker on the bar itself which is visible from under the vehicle and shows towbar p/n 92284756 and tongue p/n 92201115, allowable weights, etc. There is also a towbar compliance sticker in the drivers b-pillar which is more protected from weather and easier for the driver to check ;)

    However, I do prefer the old style stamped plates on the parts themselves as the sticker will likely fade or weather in time which makes buying second hand a little less certain as to what you may be getting.

    Likely I’ll never tow more than a lightly loaded box trailer on the rare occasion so a 1200kg bar would have been preferred (as I suspect the rear bumper doesn’t need to be cut during the install process and though not really sure). Unfortunately the dealer said such bars were no longer available but now I think they were telling me porkies :eek:
     
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    Hi, i have the same tow bar fitted to my 2015 vf calais v wagon too (92284756) although the invoice i was given (and the dealer part number required for my car is 92287455).
    Is there any difference between the 2 part numbers?
    My tow bar neck seems to stick out from my bumper bar by a substancial amount more than all other vf wagons i have seen. I have been trying to identify the 92287456 part number but so far my local dealer said this part number is not in the parts system.
     
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    Same as mine, went to part department and got mate who is parts manager to look up, as I used to work there and he couldn't find any reference to the GM part numbers on my bar either which are in the picture 3 posts up.
     
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    ^ I'd check with Holden about the tow bar recall of some years ago. They should have a list of the recalled part numbers. Maybe some didn't get swept up by the recall and made their way to the wreckers only to be onsold to unsuspecting end customers.

    Just make a point to tell them you didn't have a factory installed towbar so nothing to do with your VIN... you want to find out what tow bar part numbers were impacted and how...
     
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    Mine doesnt even have a welded on plate, only a sticker attached to the bar. Its brand new, fitted at a smaller holden dealer who had to order it in specifically for me.
    Here is a pic of the id sticker from under the car.
    Just a bit disappointing that the dealerships cant give me an answer to why they would use a part which isn't listed on their system. 20190118_172638.jpg 20190118_172638.jpg
     
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    I know i might be getting a little picky, but would you be bothered by the towbar neck protruding from the bumper more than usual?
    Mine is the second pic, without the tongue fitted (the other is one at the dealership)
    Screenshot_20190119-191200_Messages.jpg Screenshot_20190119-191637_Gallery.jpg
     
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    Nah I'm just annoyed they have to cut the rear bar but I've bit the bullet and will get the 1.6t for the ute this week for $870.
     
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    Yeah, that probably would tick me off a little bit, particularly knowing they could fit it a bit closer (different brands though perhaps..?).

    The upshot is you have a bit more leeway distance-wise for sharp turns etc when towing i guess..
     
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    It can tow the 2100 kgs if you have the stability towing package fitted to the trailer, which I think is those torsion rods, on my Calais the neck is close to the bumper and makes it hard to fit and remove the pin that holds in the hitch/tongue, it did have a cut out template moulded into the back of the bumper of where to cut out the hole, and I just used some of the pinch moulding to wrap around the hole.
     
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    Those rods are for load leveling and it doesn’t increase GMV as such.

    You can also get ESC/ABS systems added to a trailer which makes towing much safer. I’ve placed links on trailer ESC/TC in another post on another towbar thread. Search should find it if you’re interested.
     
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    Correct. The stability control bars are the only difference between the 1600 & 2100kg tow bars.
     
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    This is a GM part number as trailer hitch but just not listed in EPC.
     

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