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Updated VCM Cam Selection Information?

Discussion in 'VE Holden Commodore (2006 - 2013)' started by MrPtnt, Mar 25, 2018.

  1. MrPtnt

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    Hi guys,

    I am About to buy a VCM cam, so I watched their VCM "how to choose a camshaft" videos. But the camshafts mentioned in those videos seem to be superseded (they are not listed as being available for selection anymore).

    Is there updated info regarding their newer cams? (I could only find numbers - which I cannot understand, I am after more general advice)

    I have a 2008 VE SSV Manual - Daily driver (10ks each way, not in city traffic), occasional strip use, and am looking for something more. Not necessarily perfect manners, but not after something horrid either. So any tips would be great.

    TIA
     
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    skappascrap Herp is for the derp.

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    Give them a call tomorrow, they can still get those camshafts listed in the videos but I would go with their modern grinds.
     
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    I recently had a VCM11 fitted to my VE SS Auto, VCM say that you need a higher stall and diff gears done to run it but it runs fine, does pig root a little but that adds a bit more to my smile
     
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    Maybe wait to monstar chimes in as he seems to be the chap to listen to. Wish i did more reasearh. Went to a gm Motorsport super stock cam for a daily driver. Top end is great pulls really hard to 6800 but it’s pretty choppy down low and had to install 4.11 gears to get it to work ok. Also may be worth looking into vvt. Not even sure if it can be “activated” or needs lots of hardware changes.

    Perhaps he should release a new thread on retro-installing vvt into VE and VF commodores. It would be great to have a wider rev range when doing a cam swap. Maybe u don’t need a swap just some higher ratio rockers.
     
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    Not sure if I can add much, L98 needs a different cam for sure. You can go wider lobe separation with a manual, make good power at the strip and possibly better consumption driving daily.
    Which cam were you looking at and why?
     
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    What about 5sc? Even tho it's a supercharger cam apparently it works quite well as an N/A setup too
     
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    Well proven spec offered by dozens of cams, I wouldn’t choose EIVC for a manual though, or that particular one as it uses a different cam gear to the Gen IVs. Three bolt is cathedral head era, fine if you change the tensioner and chain, but mixing and matching can cut longevity and introduce unecessary risk.
     
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    Good choice for a manual high performance for sure. A little hairy for the daily 10k commute under 3krpm, I thought that was one criterion?
     
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    I am not too worried about the 10k trip, as it is over in about 10 minutes - but maybe I am just naive?

    I will post my thoughts about it after it is in and running properly.
     
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    What u think about the 480 cam in a manual car?
     
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    I just had a detailed look into another VCM for an L98 called 883. It’s a doozy, high performance clutch-riding 3krpm+ that’s not going to idle low or piddle around that well but huge mid and top.
    The 480 is another Early Intake Valve Close high compression cam early torque job similar to what I use in an NA auto with VVT. The intake opens half a degree later than the 5sc but still relatively early with a big gulp at 27.5° and closes at 67.5°.
    The 883 is more extreme vs everyday, but intake closes reasonably at 74° which is better I think for a manual.
    I think something like the 480 retarded 4° (installed centreline 114°) would be best out if those three.
    VCM seem quote LSA as centreline so don’t know if degreed straight-up, but is possible the full spec has some ground in retard. LS3 cam is 117 LSA with 3° retard (120° centreline).
    In any case if spec is straight-up two teeth back on the 480 so is 110° -4° would be a great manual all round.
     
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    Has anyone one fitted the VCM11 cam to a manual L77?
     
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    Anyone? I’m just wondering what it’s like to live with as I live in Brisbane and traffic can be a right pain in the a*s.
     

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