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Updating the VF to 2020

Discussion in 'VF Holden Commodore (2013 - 2017)' started by RED LION, Feb 29, 2020.

  1. Calaber

    Calaber Nil Bastardo Carborundum

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    I'm one firmly opposed to Ron's comment, but not for any critical reason.
    As an owner years ago of plenty of pre Commodore Holdens, there was always plenty of improvement I looked for to increase the cars' safety before performance. I could have let them age gracefully but I wouldn't have enjoyed them as much.
    It's different with the VF. It has the safety, comfort etc built in, so what are its real shortcomings? Inadequate connectivity? Big deal, its better tham what I have. Lack of some electronic driver aids? Ditto. Better brakes? Well, yeah, I'd go for that. More gears, too. The point is, compared to a modern car, just how inadequate is a VF2? In my book, not so much that I'd want to overlook one or feel I had to improve it.
     
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    Big Red VF-SII Go-kart I love puddles.

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    ^ Agree completely.
    As for electronic driver aids, get into a top-shelf VW and go crazy mad with distractions galore, with warnings, audible alerts, interruptions...the lot! The VF2 is cheerfully devoid of this nonsense and loses nothing becsuse of it. This is from my perspective as a DRIVER first, and enthusiast second and last.
     
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    A dipping passenger mirror on my Redline.

    It should have been an automatic inclusion as it saves time and fiddling around when you pull up to reverse park with traffic behind you.

    All my other new cars have it and some of my 10 year old ones as well.

    This is not a fun thread for me, I'm old and easily irritated.






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    VS 5.0 Well-Known Member

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    Just relax dude....I read your reply to @Ron Burgundy so replied to you.

    I then continued to scroll down and saw Ron's reply. Hence my EDIT.
     
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    Led headlights, tail/brake/blinkers
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    AEB
    Wireless charging dock
    Auto and Kw update
    That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
     
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    GM has lots off the shelf stuff in its parts bin ;)

    Factory self leveling HID headlights (from Chevy SS but have to change to RHD beam pattern)?
    (or some matrix LED upgrade with turning beam from some other vehicle, ZB?)
    Windscreen washers from Caprice?
    Electrochromatic rear and side mirrors?
    (rear mirror is a Calais part while passenger side easily done via Chevy SS driver mirror)?
    Seat coolers (again from SS)?
    MyLink upgrade... with AA/ACP...

    More difficult stuff is an auto gearbox with integrated electric motor as was done by GM some years ago (but seemingly abandoned) as it would improve on V8 gas mileage...

    By far the most important upgrade is to add a few cameras for and some vision processing so that a small projector or screen could be used to fill in the A-pillar blind spots :rolleyes:

    But the most modern feature to add would be 5G connectivity and an integrated 360 degree dashcam with event recording and push notification so that we could be notify when some lowlife keys our vehicle. Hopefully the recorded even could then help the police identify the lowlife :eek:
     
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    An electric passenger seat is something I would be very interested in doing, as the manual seat sits too high and results in tall passengers heads almost touching the roof. The electric drivers seat on the other hand is able to be set much lower.

    If I were to find a Calais V passenger seat at the wreckers, remove the base/rails/mechanisms and swap them to the Redline seat, would this work? I'm assuming the loom is already there?
     
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    Calaber Nil Bastardo Carborundum

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    The loom wasn't there in pre VE models. Cost cutting would suggest. Not there in VF either.
     
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    Speaking of seats. The HSV foams would be a nice little upgrade. Similar to what @villn808 has done in his SS.
     
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    I know the consensus is that Kayhan's early VF mod stuff was buggy but since then there have been a few updates. Has anyone fitted any of their modules from the latest update?
     
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    For the cost of a Redline Ute:

    An electric operated seat for the driver in my Ute wouldn't have hurt either.

    Not having a 'Jesus Handle' on the passenger and driver's sides for old and mobility challenged passengers is a crime.

    A poor speaker system in a $60K car is a joke.

    Though there is one thing I would give back as I don't need them, a few of the 'out of the box' squeaks and rattles.

    And a free headjob after every service would be a nice touch as I already feel like I've been fu*ked.




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    Jeez, your mechanic must be much better looking than mine...
     
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    Yes, Holden have done some incredibly stupid things when it comes to cost cutting and decontenting.
    Redlines should have been on par with Calais V for features/electrics no ifs or buts. The cost saving of deleting these features would have been negligible at best, yet all they have achieved is pissing off some of their most loyal customers.

    One of the stupidest things they ever did was deleting the glovebox light in the VE. I bought a new VE Calais (non V) in 2010 and it didn't even come with a glovebox light.... yet even a cheap and nasty shitheap like a Hyundai Getz still managed to have one. Go figure.
    Now it may seem extremely minor, but I did have a few instances where I had to look for something in the glovebox in the dark and had to resort to using the light on my phone. Very frustrating for a car I paid almost 40k for.
    They were hell bent on keeping the bean counters happy, but they failed to realise the damage they were doing to the brand by souring people's perception of the product.
     
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    What ! You are expecting them to pull the heads off, valve grind, decoke and polish with a normal service ? Bit much.

    Ohhhh…. I think I get it now ……. I'm old and easily confused. So, back to the original subject.

    To update a VF to 2020, chop off 5 cylinders, add a twin turbo charger, turn the motor 90 degrees to drive the front wheels, put an electric motor and battery pack where the diff was, add a 60cm screen and keyboard to the dash, paint it all matt battleship grey.
    Stupid suggestion, but that is how I see current new cars.
     
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    She may be




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    They did the same with the VE.

    The first run of Calais V's were far better appointed then the subsequent runs.

    Not only were they cost cutting but after they received all the positive press and the reviews were in the media they slowly started decontenting knowing most people looking to purchase would see those initial reviews and not know the cars had lost some of their shine.

    I remember a friend parking his new Senator next to my earlier version Calais V and his disappointment that the finish materials that were used in my car where lo longer available for his.




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    The sense of humour is weak in this one.

    But seriously my VF2 Ute didn't need to be short changed compared to the sedan.

    The dealer didn't have any Utes so they gave me a Redline sedan to take home for a few days as a test vehicle and at no time did anyone tell me afterwards that the Ute would be stripped of some of the basics as I outlined, I found that out after I paid for it and took it home.

    I was disappointed to say the least and to make matters worse, the VF2 may have had more creature comforts to offer than the VE but the VE kills it for build quality and is nowhere near as flimsy.

    For example the handles in the seats to recline them foward are nice and thick and solid in your hand in the VE but they are thin and flexible and feel as though they are going to break if you're not careful in the VF2 and that is just a start of the differences I have notice in the materials used.





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    Led or brighter headlights are about the only thing I want as I use the car lot (1/2 of the total kms I put in the car are all rural highway miles) for road trips around WA and these lights are **** compared to the xeons I had in my (always breaking down) BMW 335i.

    And some exhaust, intake, tune mods to bring the power back upto the LS3 HSV levels, as the VF 2 LS3 is obviously choked due to keep the marketing suits and the Greta overlords happy, but f*** those people lol

    I don't really care too much for other crap like AEB, self driving or AA, carplay.

    Edit: oh and Stop/start ranks as one of my biggest hates on mandatory crap vehicle manufactures put on... thank ******* god the VF don't have it.

    1st thing I do when driving my mum's 328i is to turn that pos off and if my next car has it (very likely), I'll be looking at programming the main ECU to turn it off permanently.
     
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    Here's an easy update mod I did , but a little exy for what it is IMG_20180625_165228.jpg
     
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    Remote window operation. The hardware, at least for the front windows, is already there.
    Electrochromatic mirrors.
    HID headlights and static cornering lamps.
    External boot release.
    Cooled seats.
    Factory DRLs that dim at night.
     

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