Updating the VF to 2020

[tml678]

Calais V features: After owning a Calais V before the Redline this one does annoy me. Auto dipping mirrors, seat memory and an electric passenger seat should’ve already been on the Redline.

Redlines should have been on par with Calais V for features/electrics no ifs or buts.

Can't agree at all with this. Calais V (and simply Calais pre VE) was always the luxury focussed model. It missed out on numerous items that the Redline had as well, Should Calais have scored brembos and suspension tweaks, launch control etc that redline got in that case?

The vehicles catered to two different markets and had the various options and features specifically tailored to suit. Makes perfect sense to me.

It seems to be the common perception on this forum that redline was just far and away better than anything else, despite it only being $500 (RRP) more expensive than a V8 Calais V.

 

[Skylarking]

^ there was never a need for Holden to limit variants unless their manufacturing process was crap. That’s simply too rigid in thought.

Some buyers may have preferred performance features in a luxurious body while others prefer luxury features in a more overt looking body. Not having such a choice drives them away from Holden towards other brands like BMW/Merc (if they could stand the snob factor)

Limiting options to sellers is not ideal. Seems JIT manufacture hasn’t lead to the efficiency and freedom it seemed to imply. Sort of a GM disease

 

[tml678]

^ there was never a need for Holden to limit variants unless their manufacturing process was crap. That’s simply too rigid in thought.

Some buyers may have preferred performance features in a luxurious body while others prefer luxury features in a more overt looking body.

It's a moot point and has little to do with what I was replying to. GMH hadn't offered bespoke options for years (think of all those VH's with various nausea inducing interiors as an example). It was suggested that redline should have had all Calais V features out of the box.

if that were the case there would be little to nothing to differentiate the models, and it raises the argument, given pricing similarity that Calais V should have had the vast majority of redline features as well.

There needed to be a point of difference and there was. One sporting orientated and one luxury.

 

[VS 5.0]

Calais V should have had the vast majority of redline features as well

VE Calais V came in Redline.

 

[mpower]

and for those who want both you get HSV, honestly the VF SS is so far ahead of previous years it't not funny,

 

[RED LION]

Can't agree at all with this. Calais V (and simply Calais pre VE) was always the luxury focussed model. It missed out on numerous items that the Redline had as well, Should Calais have scored brembos and suspension tweaks, launch control etc that redline got in that case?

The vehicles catered to two different markets and had the various options and features specifically tailored to suit. Makes perfect sense to me.

It seems to be the common perception on this forum that redline was just far and away better than anything else, despite it only being $500 (RRP) more expensive than a V8 Calais V.

I see what your saying and I agree with it to an extent. I would argue that electric passenger seats should be standard in a nearly 60k car though.

 

[tml678]

VE Calais V came in Redline.

entirely correct, and I forgot about this one. I'd say though, it was dropped for VF to maintain the points of difference.

I see what your saying and I agree with it to an extent. I would argue that electric passenger seats should be standard in a nearly 60k car though.

cant argue with that. And don't start me on the bits and bobs the Chevy SS got that us longtime buyers missed out on...ventilated seats in an Aussie summer anyone..?

 

[426Cuda]

how do these interact with the remote start feature?

No issues. You have to hold the unlock or lock button down for a second or two to operate the windows. The remote start works as normal.

 

[426Cuda]

VE Calais V came in Redline.

True. But in VE Redline was an option, not a standalone model. It got front Brembo's and the VF style forged alloys. Did it get FE3? It seems for VF Holden saw the potential to create a performance oriented model based on the polularity of the VE redline option? Sales show they were right to do so. That said, I reckon a few of the the luxo options should have been available in the Redline. Mainly elec pax seat and electrochromatic mirror. The other stuff doesn't do that much for me personally. I reclon all models should have upgraded brakes as a option too, with Brembo's available at least in the Calais V.
This recipie worked for the Director.

 

[VS 5.0]

Did it get FE3?

Not sure...I've only seen it mentioned as performance suspension.