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Discussion in 'V8 Development and Modification' started by greasemonkey24, Nov 11, 2012.

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  1. Nov 19, 2012 #41
    Cava454

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    Assume by lamp post he wasn't on a freeway...
     
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  2. Nov 20, 2012 #42
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    How can you have roller lifters on a flat tappet cam?

    Anyway, this thread is a big part of the reason why i went with a Chev in my Torana, Holden V8 is just too expensive and i'm not in love with them enough to spend that much extra coin. That and i wouldn't put an LS1 in it if it was being given away.
     
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  3. Nov 20, 2012 #43
    greasemonkey24

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    who said it was a flat tappet cam,???
    lucky enough its not coming from your pocket either,
     
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  4. Nov 21, 2012 #44
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    Well, unless you've had a roller cam custom ground to 286 specs, the "Crane 286" is a flat tappet grind....Either that, or you've just got something similar in a Crane roller grind.
     
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  5. Nov 21, 2012 #45
    Cava454

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    286 is a hyd cam.
     
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  6. Nov 21, 2012 #46
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    Yeh, hydraulic flat tappet, not hydraulic roller. Hence my question.
     
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  7. Nov 21, 2012 #47
    ari666

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    lol, ITT: people confusing "flat tappet" for "solid"
     
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  8. Nov 21, 2012 #48
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    286 roller?

    im startin to question this group a manifold, its prob a trick shift manifold with group a sticker lol
     
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  9. Nov 21, 2012 #49
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    More like bananas with a Group A sticker...:p
     
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  10. Nov 21, 2012 #50
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  11. Nov 21, 2012 #51
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    considiring i actually own a vk original lm5000 i know what original parts look like and smart enough to research the car with its papers and build plates, jeolesy is a real heart breaker guys sometimes it gets the better of people.........

    here is info for my cam, Hydraulic Lifter Camshafts

    HYDRAULIC - Fair idle, strong mid
    range-top end street & strip performance.
    Needs 9.5-10:1 comp 3.08-3.5 gears,
    hi-stall converter etc. for best results.
    BASIC RPM 2200-6000
    PowerMax H286
    (was CCH286A)
    Chart A
    244621
    99284-16 r
    99384-16 s
    C969C-16P
    230
    230
    292
    292
    110
    10 40
    50 0
    .000
    .000
    .496
    .496
     
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  12. Nov 21, 2012 #52
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    even then it would be a steal at $600, considering a Trickshift costs $2650!
     
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  13. Nov 21, 2012 #53
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    There we go, if all else fails, play the jealous card. Nobody said they were jealous?

    Anyway, so it's a hydraulic flat tappet Crane 286. It's not a roller cam, therefore it can't have roller lifters, which was my original point.
     
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    i am kinda jealous if hes getting a Grp A manifold for $600. but i still prefer my manifold lol


    ..but back to point, yes its not a roller block
     
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  15. Nov 21, 2012 #55
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  16. Nov 21, 2012 #56
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    I know the difference....Most people just say hyd cam, solid/flat tappet, hyd roller, solid roller. To distinguish from each other.

    Say hyd flat tappet and I guarantee some blokes will give u a doopey look.
     
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  17. Nov 21, 2012 #57
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    Doesn't really matter what you call it, the fact of the matter is, you can't run roller lifters on a flat tappet cam, which is what op was saying. That's all i was getting at.
     
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  18. Nov 21, 2012 #58
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    i beg to differ give crane cams a ring and see what they say i was told as hydraulic mifter style cam i can run hydraulic roller lifters,

    as for the manifold, the car was a complete write off and being the fact he is an old family friend and good mate i received the favour of purchasing the manifold.
     
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  19. Nov 21, 2012 #59
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    BS. You can't run roller lifters on a cam that isn't a roller cam. Flat tappet and roller cams are 2 completely different things, they're made out of different materials, they're made differently, they're ground differently. If that's what Crane said, the person on the other end of the phone must have been on work experience.

    I could go through the in's and out's, but i'm not even going to waste my time typing it. I'm over trying to explain it.
     
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  20. Nov 21, 2012 #60
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    jesus christ this thread spiraled out of control.

    The old what manifold hydraulic roller 286 bottom end build aussie v8 vs ls1 written off car question? aye...
     
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