Thanks for your input mpower, i appreciate your time and effort to think of your clever response. I suppose youre the spokesperson for all the "old folks" on this forum? you seem to be speaking for all the older generation when you say that you all arent up with the "hip" terms from the scene? in which case ill point you in the direction of another website http://www.urbandictionary.com/ which will explain almost every slang/lingo/term you will come across on this new fandangled contraption called the internet. No need for thanks mate, im here to help my fellow enthusuasts in any way i can. And why is my wagon "shaved" you say?... well shaved is always better of course.