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Urgent Advice need on the L77

Discussion in 'VE Holden Commodore (2006 - 2013)' started by HEXEM, Sep 6, 2011.

  1. gt3540rx

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    i think you deserve a new redline edition for your troubles..... & one that doesnt rattle..lol
     
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    Phil, if it wasn't for bad luck, you'd have no luck at all mate! Its a pity that Australia doen't have the same "Lemon" laws as the US. A call to consumer affairs is in order i believe, surely they can do something to help.

    Oh and are they giving you a hire car or something to use while this Fiasco plays out?

    Cheers

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    Hi all,

    Well a trip out to the dealer today after they put the heads back on and new engine oil, coolent etc.

    I was there for the first fire after they primed the engine prior to starting. The noise was incredible. I did a video of the new motor see if you can spot the noise. :)

    [​IMG]
     
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    OMG what the hell happened?? Is it dead??
     
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    its a ripper isn't it.

    Before we go to far on this one. The problem was due to the tech that changed the cam (carried out the techline) missed the fact that you have to remove the 8 rubber O-rings.

    This somehow was causing a pressure build-up or something making the noise bla bla bla......

    The service foreman ripped off the intake and lifted the valley plate and there they were all 8. He took them out and put everything back together and retested the engine. All's quite now.

    40mins work and it was fixed. To bad they had to rip the heads off and put back on. Cost of new gaskets, headbolts etc etc. I know they used new one as they didn't have time to get rid of the original ones.

    Anyway I am due to have the car back tomorrow.
     
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    Thats something atleast.

    I still havent found time to take mine in yet, but worried it will become worse with what is going on with yours....
     
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    Morons...

    Phil, are you in a position to upgrade? Unless you can find the Voodoo doctor to lift the curse, that's what I'd be doing
     
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    I think to lift the curse I need to change brands completely
     
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    Not the dark side, for hate leads you to thee.
     
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    Got the car back this afternoon. The car was out most of the day being test driven (no not flogged!) by the service foreman (whos a friend). Everything checked out ok and was handed back. I'm to affraid to cold start it in the morning now as I don't want to hear if it slaps its head off.... I will just be selling it and not have to worry.

    The darkside is one car I will be test driving, so to Nissan, Toyota and Subaru. But one thing is for certain, no more V8's.
     
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    ahahahahah ahahahahahah ahahahahhahahah 1 week ahahaahaha ahahahah try 2 day max


    i think the issue might be the difference in cam lift the car is to work with a set cam lift so l98 cam is to be used

    the l77 can be set to afm or non afm

    there may even be lobe seperation difference's ??? this would cause slight issues with cam sensors and ecu's
     
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    You have seriously had the worst luck of anybody I have seen ever. Better luck in the future!

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    Which toyota/nissan/subaru models do you have in mind?
     
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    Driving the car into work this morning, just leaving home and the car felt weird (hard to discribe) then a few klm later, Stability Control warning, ESP off warning. They stay up on the display for about 10 minutes then go away. Pull up the next set of lights and the car was idling smoothly, not jumpy or rocking. Get to the dealers and tell them about it...

    Out comes my mate with tech2 and there is a C........ something code stored. The code related to the calibration of the sensors for steering, wheels, etc etc (all that ESP/Stability stuff). He told me that they didn't recalibrate it as when they test drove the car it didn't give off the fault.

    The reason it occured was due to the system being disconnected for over a week. Anyway 10mins to recalibrate everything and there was no problem driving home. Infact is just felt good to drive. The test will come in the morning again to see if there is some underlying gremlin as work....

    Please do not ask me about the 'you know what' its taboo to mention it now :) ...... One thing though is the drivers side injector bank is now quite noisy.... oh well can't have everything I guess..
     
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    I have a MY11 SS Wagon ( L77 auto), it has 30,000 km and it knocks when starting up cold any way, has done for a while. I have also found that it uses oil, and i have other knocking issues on take off. Holden has had the car for 2 weeks total and cant find a single thing wrong with it and told me that all wagons make the knocking noise on take off.
    At least Holden is replacing your engine, they never even went any were near that for me.
    The power is great, the economy is great, the look is great but after that the brakes are spongy, the suspension is ruff and with the problems above I'm not to happy with mine.
     
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    This thread is a bit old now but....

    Mate you need to be at Holden first thing in the morning at the same time they start the car so you can point it out. Also have the Holden district service manager present. Unless you have that in place there's no point, they will claim everything is normal... when in fact its not. I had to fight to get them to acknowledge that the engines were not right, that there was an internal problem. The engines would be quiet as a mouse for the first few 1000klm then start knocking.

    This thread was started because when they (Holden) agreed to put the new L77 in my car they gave me an April 2011 built L77. After several 1000klm it didn't knock on cold start, however because they absolutely had to change the camshaft (from an L77 to L98) it had constant lifter ticking (possibly lifter preload issue due to wrong size pushrods). It just did my head in the level of incompetence. Holden Technical said they had to change the camshaft (and not the pushrods and lifters) in the engine because they didn't know how it would work.

    All the technical advice I received from the major performance shops from just about every state the complete opposite. For you car however it would be a straight swap over because you have AFM.
     
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    I've got exactly the same car, and can recommend stopping by GSL Rallysport (JC sponsor) next time you're passing near Inala. They'll sort the brakes for $100, and if you ask they can also define a custom suspension spec to your liking. It's worth the detour next time you're on the southside.
    I'm currently at Clontarf Beach, have clocked 120,000ks and elected not to renew / extend the factory warranty because I'm genuinely satisfied with the few easy tweaks to remedy or manage certain factory issues.
    PM me if you'd like to talk or meet up.
     

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