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Discussion in 'VE Holden Commodore (2006 - 2013)' started by ascottaudio, Apr 13, 2009.

  1. ascottaudio

    ascottaudio AscottAudio

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    I read about this before I got the car.. and it looks like I have the VE battery drain problem that some VE's are prone to..I have only had the car a couple of weeks..no problem until I left it 2 or 3 days..no go..jump started it and went for a spin..started fine after an hour...but tried it this morning and again..no go..
    I have done all the correct warranty change over info..so hopefully Holden should do the fix...just wondering if anyone else has had this and can give me any feedback on getting the fix done...I had a look at the battery...and couldnt see how it comes out..looks to big for the hole..not to metion all the "bits" all around it..anyone know how to remove/replace it?

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    Hunter SS Growing Old Disgracefully

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    i had an issue with my other VE, it didn't go flat, but it was sluggish starting once or twice after sitting for a few days. The problem arose because it's parked under a carport and the car was unlocked and locked quite a few times... of course the "approach" timer was set at 1 minute...... i changed it back to 30 seconds so the headlights woldn't drain the battery as much.
     
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    My VE is a sept 06 and has been back to the dealer twice with the battery issue. Apparently there is a software mod that fixes it but it took two gos to get it so I could gtee it would start. On thursday night I left the parkers on for 3.5 hrs and had to get the RACV to start it. Looked at it today and the problem is :
    1..the battery is nearing its end of life
    2.. the battery is not kept fully charged

    Holden need to fix this issue. Everyone I know with a VE has had a battery problem that has stopped them. Just dumb!
     
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    Sabbath' Shipwrecked

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    If you want to remove the battery yourself you will need to do the following.

    Along the bottom of inside of the boot lip, the plastic trim piece has to be removed. This is done by removing the four screw in clips which hold the luggage net in. On some of the earlier models there are plastic scrivets on the bottom two holes which can be prised out with a screwdriver or similar trim removal tool.

    Once these clips are out, firmly pull the trim piece upwards. It has 4 or 5 clips on the inside which hold it on which are the hold you are trying to break, be firm, but ofcourse, if it feels like it's going to break, stop and reasses it.

    Once this piece is out, you can move onto the side, felt trim. There are three christmas tree type scrivets which are removed, again, with a screwdriver or trim tool.

    Once these are out, the felt trim will be able to be pulled back.

    The battery can then removed by undoing the retaining clamp.


    Hope this helps
     
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    BOY1236 Crazy dude in a V8

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    how long ?
     
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    ascottaudio AscottAudio

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    fixed??...time will tell

    I took the car to my holden dealer today (I was impressed they could look at it the day after I rang)..they seemed to have delt with the issue before and knew when I told them about the fault..when I picked the car up...the service person said they recalabrated the software and charged up the battery...although I was happy..from what they said...I wasnt completly convinced that the problem was 100% fixed...I guess time will tell..
     
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    Hunter SS Growing Old Disgracefully

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    about 4 days....... but like i said, it was unlocked and locked a few times in that period. The approach timer and egress timer was set for 1 minute so the headlights were on for 2 minutes each time.
     
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    ascottaudio AscottAudio

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    oh no!

    After a few days with no problem..same thing happened..no start..once I jump start it..seems ok..its going back to Holden tomorrow.

    I did a bit of searching and found a big thread on the LS1 forum about this problem..seems to be a major issue that Holden are not addressing in the right way.
    I will see how I go tomorrow..but I am thinking that it is going to be very important to find a dealer or other service person that knows thier way around the VE electrics..from what Im reading..its very hit and miss.
     
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    andyman The Only 6sp VZ Wagon

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    the computer fix i believe was a different alternator charging output, ie they upped the output amps, there was also the rear seat enternainment was drawing current in the early ones, i believe there is a fix for that,


    just out of curiosity, to the guys with the battery going flat, what aftermarket electrical accessories do you have and what signal wire are you using and where is your power source from?

    cheers
     
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    SatNav can also go into a lockup mode which could draw a current
     
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    fixed?

    I got the car back today..and had a good chat to the sevice guy.. I was a lot happier that they found the problem..he told me he had delt with a lot of these battery drain fixes..they put a new battery in...left it overnight and then did a check to see if there was any drain on the new battery..all good so he said..hopefully it will be a long term fix..

    Weird thing..when I got home..I noticed the key I had was not the same..it was new...I had a look at the invoice and there was a note of this ..I rang..(as he didnt mention it while I was there) and was told that there was an issue with the early keys "collapsing" and that they replace them when they can..

    Cheers.
     
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    Correct. The early VE remotes had a problem with the fascia collapsing once used for a period of time so the newer, raise button version has been introduced. If the car hasnt had it done and it's flagged in the system pretty good chance it will be changed under warranty for you.
     
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    It might pay you to check that your Bluetooth is off , that seems to be a common problem of late if you use your bluetooth it is on all the time even when the car is put to bed
     
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    My 2006 Calais still has the battery drain issue and has not been able to be fixed.

    No matter what the dealer does, or what I try it starts going flat within a couple of weeks of having an overnight charge and it just goes downhill from there.
     
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    Had my car for 18 months with battery flat once after presumably leaving acessories on for some time...

    On weekend was at footy in rain so car was off with wipers and radio on for some time..

    Came back to car (other ppl had been in it) and started it with "Battery saver mode on" on trip comp.. Started but was sluggish.. Drove home about 1.5 hrs but had lights on most of the journey, although i thought maybe would have charged up..

    Next day was greeted with battery saver mode and sluggish start again.. Noticed battery volts went up to 15, after taking it for a drive that day (usually sits on 13 or 14 when driving) which i understand its charging but maybe a bit high, although sometimes it goes down to 12v when driving...
    Haven't had any further trouble as yet but am driving it almost daily..

    Also does anyone else notice when using electric windows how much the lights drop in brightness?? Its done this since new.

    Cheers.
     
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    Haven't noticed that, but when the air con is on and the cooling fans kick in my headlights really take a hit, especially if stationary at the time. Also, as my battery drains the car starts forgetting things like the auto mirror dip location, last stereo mode selection etc.
     
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    yes my I noticed that on my car a few weeks before my battery went flat for the second time since I bought it. last time I had it recharged over night and they flashed in a new program to make the alernator charge more but its happened again, it goes it to be recharged again next thursday so we'll see what they say
     
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    Mine is left in the garage and sometimes not started for over 2 weeks... she kicks first go ( i have sat nav also).

    I don't know what the prob could be as it seems to only affect a few people inc my mates 07 berlina..
     
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    this issue only affects some cars, it can be many things that affect it tho, fluro lights, wiring caught behind glove box and vanity mirrors, old style bluetooth modules, water entering the rear doors and shorting out the rear speakers aswell as old style door looms, RSE (rear seat entertainment) needs to be updated few others aswell, take it to holden and its a warranty fix(might be without your car for a night tho)

    Nick... btw i work for them :p
     
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    You forgot HVAC modules and IRCs :thumbsup:,i've replaced a stack of these that were faulty.
    I also had a faulty Bluetooth module last week with a 2009 build date ("Voice In" on permanently) ,so the problem with BT modules still goes on --- :ranting:
     

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