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Discussion in 'VE Holden Commodore (2006 - 2013)' started by bundyjack, Nov 5, 2019.

  1. bundyjack

    bundyjack New Member

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    I'm new to my VE . Blindspot on left windscreen pillar nearly caused 2 prangs........
    Lucky I drive like an old lady..............
    cheers
    Bundyjack
     
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    i think we are all well aware of the blindspots, just need to be mindful of them and accommodate for their existence.
     
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    Beware the thick 'A' pillars...
     
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    How many blindspots does VE have ?





    All of them.
     
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    3 could have beens ****
     
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    Dayvo Because i can

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    I put one of those convex mirrors on the passenger side mirror . I'm over 60 so I can get away with it ha ha .
     
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    We use convex mirrors and they are a god send.

    The blind spots were improved on VF by thinning out the A-pillar trim.
    Many modern cars have the thicker A-pillar for "safety".
     
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    If VF was an improvement, then the VE must have been an abomination of an A-pillar design.

    Guess safety in design must have lost its meaning if pedestrians and whole vehicles can be obscured by such a thick A-pillars. Seems the regulators are asleep at the wheel on such a simple passive safety issue as the driver having good forward and side visibility o_O
     
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    It’s to do with crash ratings.
    I don’t think we are in a position to complain about a blind spot of a vehicle that first appeared over a decade ago.
     
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    ^ it’s a common issue on many current cars.

    Design emphasis seems to be on protecting the occupants at the expense of driver visibility. Good driver visibility can help to avoid crashes while poor visibility result in crashes. Active systems are no replacement for good passive design as active systems can fail and then what does the driver who thinks the car will save him do; crash is what.

    Hence my comments about the regulators being asleep at the wheel ;)
     
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    Eh it isn't that bad in any real world circumstance except perhaps at a roundabout. I'd take occupant safety over slightly improved visibility any day.
     
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    ^ bad at roundabouts, right turns especially fast sweepers... yhe power is addictive but it’s not as fun to fang around as my old clunker with skinny A-pillars. I didn’t notice it as being as issue on the test drive but now I’d say it’s bad. It seems to bother some people more than others and probably depends on their height somewhat.

    Now when I’m driving the VF, I’m like a bobblehead just to see where I’m going :p
     
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    I agree, it's not bad. Very simple to move your head slightly to see around it
     
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    It's definitely bad but I have grown used to it the last 10 years so now it's not such a problem.
    It was a cost decision by Holden as from memory they used medium strength steel in the A pullers instead of higher strength steel which would have allowed them to be thinner. The rollover strength of the VE is pretty awesome though, just have a watch of some arab drifting vids on YouTube LOL!!
     
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    Calaber Nil Bastardo Carborundum

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    The further back design pushes the angle of the windscreen pillars, the stronger they need to be. Consider the HQ. Incredibly thin A pillars but almost upright. Pillars of the HQ's dimension would never withstand a rollover if they were canted back at the same angle as the VE.
    And plenty of other vehicles have stupidly thick pillars. My Captiva suffers from the same issue. The pillars easily hide a small vehicle approaching from the left.
     
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    Had my VE SS for 3 years now, never noticed it until this thread lol
     
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    I came from a VE to VF, didn't notice a difference at all.
     
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    I don't think the trim was ever really the issue.
     
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    I think it depends on the driver's size and how they sit. I'm 6ft and sit well back from the steering wheel. I have never owned a VE or VF, but I have driven them. Never noticed any problems.
    Our Territory has equally thick A pillars. I don't find a problem there, and have never heard or seen any complaints about them.
     
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    i'm 6ft and sit well back i've noted the issue but adjust my behaviour to account for it.

    there are plenty of complaints, and it is mentioned in most reviews of the vehicle.
     

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