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Ve commodore stretched timing chain repair cost??

Discussion in 'VE Holden Commodore (2006 - 2013)' started by livecommodores, Mar 11, 2012.

  1. Chopchop

    Chopchop New Member

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    I have seen some pretty quality doble rowed jobbies like from rollmaster needle roller bearings timing keyway slots for precise timing and pretty bullet proof,,they run at the front of motor there is a single single rowed chain in the stock v8s and v6s that runs to crank then up to cam timing gear sprocket there is tensioner and a few other little fiddly bits bolts etc behind the cover plus gotta remember to replace gasket or use the blue goo thats works well as anon cork gasget look on ebay or go to any auto shop thats credible and do the price play off against eachother to see whos cheapest prob only a cuple of hundie atm for part for a mechanic even a retired one looking for cashie work, their there,anit that bigg a prob especially if on a quote and not rushing ,peace and hope that helps a bit and gday to all on the forums peace and clean balck lines left on the black top
     
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    Have been trying to find out info on how often timing chains go in a commodore I am looking at after being told they need replaced every 100-120k, after finding this site I also found an interesting article from Consumer NZ, admittedly it is based on the Consumer Guarantees Act in NZ but thought I'd paste the link anyway.

    https://www.consumer.org.nz/articles/holden-timing-chains-don-t-last-distance
     
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    There is no set distance for this, it's not part of any scheduled service. The chain shouldn't need replacing for many kms, but unfortunately many do Fail and start to "stretch" Theory is it's a known issue with 06, 07 and early 08 V6's but there have been numerous threads on here with owners of newer cars also with timing chain problems. It needs to be changed when you have a problem that is properly diagnosed as being the chain. This is not a timing belt that has scheduled service recommendations. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
     
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    Must be a reason the V8's dont seem to have this issue just the V6's starting from the VZ. Must be a design flaw.

    My old Honda had 2 services in 7 years with 280000kms and still runs without any main engine issues LOL
     
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    Hi all
    So what does everyone recommend doing first? Software update? Take it to castle holden? Or pay 2.5k
     
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    Depends if you are going to keep it longer or sell it.
    If you have the alloytec v6 and the scan is pulling one of the Timing Chain codes.
    For me I went for the software fix first. And was going to sell it not long after. Sadly the software came back already updated $100 or so after !. So went with the full job (Chains / Tensioners / Guides / Gaskets) through my local mechanic. Pays to ask if they have done timing chains on a VE before. They sourced the timing chain kit straight from Holden and did the job costing me way less. I also got the spark plugs changed at the same time since the intake was off and new gaskets replaced, you dont need to if you want to save $
     
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    Definitely get the software update done first. My 2009 SV6 would throw a check engine light randomly and go away. I took it to holden and they did the update on the parameters of the chain sensors and I have had no more trouble. They said because mine is SIDI engine its less likely to be a chain issue but there are people on here with later models than mine that have had the chains done so its a lottery draw. I was told if the check engine did come back in the future, it will be $1800 for them to do the chains. I will keep driving till then and save some money.
     
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    Ok thanks guys. Appreciate the feedback. Its just so weird because it only popd up with check engine light after i had just serviced my car myself. Like oil change(5L) ,oil filter,air filter and added new spark plugs, changed manifold gasket. I think il do software update 1st as yous have said?..
     
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    Because it's not stretched enough to cause a mechanical issue, only enough to set off the warning light based on the original settings in the software...
     
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    Yep over 100ks and my 09 needs doing
     
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    I wouldn't call 100k high mileage for a 09 model. I have a mate with an 08 model that has over 280 000 kms on it
     
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    Hi...where did you go for the work..mine needs doing! ??
     
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    The Software stretches the timing perimeters between the cams, meaning the computer doesn’t detect the mis (they’re only programmed to allow hundredths of mm each way). I’ve too looked into having my timing chain replaced; a full kit from Holden is approximately $750 and together installed totals somewhere between $1500-$1800 by Holden. For a local mechanic, the labour would be more as its such a tedious, fiddle job... Holden have the car for 24 hours
     
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    dealer here in Adelaide charges about $2800.00 all up i got my nephew to do mine Holden mechanic parts and labour $1400
     
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    Reaper Tells it like it is.

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    Cams are all about intake/zorst valves and spark timing. Just delay/advance/whatever the spark relative to the other 2 and you are near enough. Wallah.. Softwares.
     
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    Could you tell me where you had the work done please. All my quotes are at least $1000 more than yours cost. Thanks.
     
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    Could you tell me where you had the work done please.
     
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    this is where he got it fixed page 4 post 79 i copy and pastes his comment
    i got mine done at peerless auto in lynbrook
     

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