VE SS ute on LPG?

[poweredbycng]

Sorry guys, I totally forgot that I posted here. I don't normally look in the VE forums... :bang:

Have a look at some of the dyno charts here:

Hunter Gas Technologies - LPG conversions for petrol engines

There may also some members of a certain LPG forum that will be able to show you some results, specifically some of the gas fitters.

Also, take a look at this:

SEMA 2007: 1,000 HP ProPane Chevelle by Mothers - Autoblog

Regards,
Dave

 

[blownba]

You would be amazed how well the 6.0L runs.
Heres a pic of one I have done (the engine cover is removed for photo's)

 

[CSP]

You would be amazed how well the 6.0L runs.

I know how well the 6.0L runs. Unless of course you meant to add "on LPG" to the end of your statement.

You're right I will be amazed, once I see PROOF! :thumbsup:

 

[Shounak]

haha.. it amazes me, why people buy performance cars then LPG them to save on running costs. If you want to buy a v8, you should be able to afford to run it. If you can't, get a v6!

We have a BA XR8 in the house and it's on a direct injection gas kit. There is absolutely no power loss for general driving. It goes like the clappers and the mileage is the same.

If you really redline the **** out of the car you can feel it begin to lose its balls a little bit, but apparently that can be tuned out. Not that I care. If I want to have a bit of fun, I switch is to petrol. For the other 99% of the time I happily drive it around on gas.

It has all the benefits of a V8 (bucket loads of torque for seamless highway overtaking, being able to tow anything, awesome drivability in tricky situations etc.) without the huge fuel bill to go with it.

It's the ideal option. Gas your V8's. Chances are you don't make 100% use of your V8 anyway.

BTW, for any Melbournians. There's a guy at LPGas1 in Lilydale with a BA XR8 ute which he races. He's opened up the engine and done a **** load of work (don't ask me what). All this with a V8 on gas.

Brilliance.

 

[CSP]

It has all the benefits of a V8 (bucket loads of torque for seamless highway overtaking, being able to tow anything, awesome drivability in tricky situations etc.) without the huge fuel bill to go with it.

Please explain "tricky situations". Oh, and I own two V8s and my fuel bill isn't huge. Far from it!

It's the ideal option. Gas your V8's. Chances are you don't make 100% use of your V8 anyway.

How about "get effed mate!"
I take serious offense to someone flat out telling me what to do. LPG is a pointless, waste of money conversion that certainly won't see 307kw at the wheels with the same mods. And how the hell do you know what anyone gets the most out of? Why do people who drive V6's have to justify it by always saying people that drive V8's don't make 100% use of it? I use 100% of my car EVERY time I drive it!!

 

[Libran]

yes, any reduction is welcome......the problem being that people have got the idea that lpg is clean.......it produces fair less toxic emissions(before the cat if fitted), that's where the clean reputation comes from.....however, in terms of CO2 emissions, yes it is smaller....but not by much.

I dont know if you are playing dumb or not........make something cheaper and people will use it more/place less value on the using it as wisely. Why are in general people moving to smaller cars....because of the cost of fuel. If a fuel is made less than half the price, people dont have the same incentive to moderate their use or down size their vehicle....

simply the increase in CO2 released by burning more cheaper lpg will not be offset by the small advantage that the lpg has in CO2 emissions per ltire burnt.

HMM playing dumb or not emissions are also relevant to the mix that the producers of the L.P.G. make to break it down there is a lot more in the gas but putting it simply the AUTO MIX is basically a propane and butane mix the butane is the crap that lowers the octane rating of gas and produces the most bad emissions the propane which I use in my car "IS" a cleaner burning fuel if you burn auto mix out of a bottle you will see a dirty bluey yellow flame where as propane is a nice clean blue colour and in a car if you get the fuel company’s who make the auto mix putting more butane into it (which is commonly called a dirty mix) to make it cheap to make (a bigger profit for them) the emissions increase the same way that the cheaper unleaded fuel produce more emissions than the optimax and the like so its always relevant to how you want to look at it really also the way that the newer L.P.G. systems work they are using less gas for the same effect eg injection systems but yes I will agree that if it is cheaper people may use more me I live km out of town so I do a lot of travelling so yes I do look with blinders because I have no other choice but to do a lot of km's but what I’m saying is the figure are not always right and sometimes quoting figures just isn't quit right. But getting back to dirty mixes the problem with those also is that butane in its liquid state carries a what they call tar residue which actually looks like machine oil but when it hits your converter in large volumes and the liquids turned to vapour the tars left behind and heated by the converter ends up hardening inside it and stuffs your converter very quickly also yes I can hear it now not everyone does have access to propane but most taxi associations run propane and a lot of them other people can buy the gas from the depot not just taxi's so there is a lot of aspects to the whole story

 

[Shounak]

Please explain "tricky situations". Oh, and I own two V8s and my fuel bill isn't huge. Far from it!

Someone's going 90 on a highway and I only have a short window to overtake. But it's not so much in a car, I used the gas on the bike when people pulled in front of me and more acceleration is better than less. It's often a better alternative to brakes.

How about "get effed mate!"
I take serious offense to someone flat out telling me what to do. LPG is a pointless, waste of money conversion that certainly won't see 307kw at the wheels with the same mods. And how the hell do you know what anyone gets the most out of? Why do people who drive V6's have to justify it by always saying people that drive V8's don't make 100% use of it? I use 100% of my car EVERY time I drive it!!

It doesn't take much to seriously offend you then. I'm not telling everyone what to do, I'm suggesting a very good alternative.

Unlike my throttle body injected Commodore, you can't notice the difference between petrol and gas unless the Tacho has gone into the red. How often does the tacho in my Commy or the XR see red, very rarely.

Who cares about what a dyno says on paper anyway, I couldn't care less if it lost 3kw at the fly. The drivability is exactly the same. I suggest you drive a direct injection gas kit before you make too many judgements. Also give the guy at LPGas1 a call about power loss, he seems to think his gassed XR8 does just fine at the track.

And it's rubbish that you use 100% of your V8 everytime you drive it. When I put my foot down, my instantaneous fuel consumption is about 100litres/100km. If you do indeed make full use of your V8, then you definitely can't avoid the huge fuel bills you claim to know nothing about.

BTW, you're not getting 307kw at the wheels. Unless of course you've done some serious work.

 

[Libran]

How about "get effed mate!"
I take serious offense to someone flat out telling me what to do. LPG is a pointless, waste of money conversion that certainly won't see 307kw at the wheels with the same mods. And how the hell do you know what anyone gets the most out of? Why do people who drive V6's have to justify it by always saying people that drive V8's don't make 100% use of it? I use 100% of my car EVERY time I drive it!!

Me i honestly dont care who runs what but with the new gas systems (injection systems) you will get the same grunt from any motor as long as you get a decent installer to fit the system the same way as you would get a decent macanic to do internal mods to your motor you wouldn't trust that to anyone and the next generation of gas systems to come out WILL outdo the power that your getting out of petrol now i would imagine that you would pay big dollars for that one thow, now changing to L.P.G. for me as i do about 800km's a week i HAVE saved $61 per week off my bill now in the ten years i will have before a cylinder test is needed i will have saved about $31,720 but that is at todays prices now i payed $3900 to fit a multi point gas injection and got $2000 cash back now i know thats on the chopping block but even taking out $4000 i will still have saved $27,720 now please explain how its a pointless waist of money???

 

[Shounak]

Me i honestly dont care who runs what but with the new gas systems (injection systems) you will get the same grunt from any motor as long as you get a decent installer to fit the system the same way as you would get a decent macanic to do internal mods to your motor you wouldn't trust that to anyone and the next generation of gas systems to come out WILL outdo the power that your getting out of petrol now i would imagine that you would pay big dollars for that one thow, now changing to L.P.G. for me as i do about 800km's a week i HAVE saved $61 per week off my bill now in the ten years i will have before a cylinder test is needed i will have saved about $31,720 but that is at todays prices now i payed $3900 to fit a multi point gas injection and got $2000 cash back now i know thats on the chopping block but even taking out $4000 i will still have saved $27,720 now please explain how its a pointless waist of money???

Cuz you can't make full use of your V8? You can't make use of the full 307rwkw which is as fulla crap as the arguments used?

I need enlightening.

 

[CSP]

307rwkw is what I will have post cam/valve spring change in a coouple of months. Along with my OTRCAI and full exhaust.

It cannot make the same power on LPG. Tuners laugh at such a misguided thought.

I use 100% of my V8 engine every time I drive it. I like to feel the torque off the line. I spend $120 a week on fuel. That is FAR FROM HUGE!!!

I'm done with this pointless, ignorant argument. When you have something smart to say, I'll be happy to come back to this thread.