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Discussion in 'VF Holden Commodore (2013 - 2017)' started by VFSSVUTE, Feb 17, 2014.

  1. KING46Calais V

    KING46Calais V Active Member

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    I have put Hids in my car from the eBay seller link on the initial pages. Hi lo and fogs. 4300k.
    I picked that colour as it has the highest usable light output and is similar to standard so won't stand out too much for police. While LEDs may be brighter, they dont throw the light far enough ahead. I do a lot of night and highway driving so good light throw was important. In regard to legality, im sure that HIDs and LEDs are both no compliant in NSW for the reasons discussed earlier. There is also a heap of regs for the halogen globe alone about aim, cut offs and colour so it would be more than just the self levelling and projector housings you would need to change to get over the line.
    Had them a few months now and never been flashed by an oncoming car. I haven't adjusted the headlights either.
    Fitting was difficult as described earlier. For the info of others that are willing to take the risk, when you install the hi and low beam, make sure they are seated perfect in the housing. Easier said than done as it's all by feel. But I fiddled with mine for ages as they didn't look right. So what I did is turned them on and then fitted them to the housing. That way I could see the light pattern and was able to get them to match and make sure the were installed properly.
    They make a huge difference and glad I made the swap.
     
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    How did the HIDs turn out re: light pattern from the low beam projector lenses in your VFII, KING46Calais V? Did you end up with any shadows in the light throw in front of the car? Or does the light pattern fully light the road in front of the car, identical to the standard Halogens?

    Any chance you can put up a pic of the light pattern the HIDs throw from low beam?

    I too like the idea of the 35 watt 4300k HIDs. More light output than the higher kelvin HID bulbs, with less unwanted attention.
     
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    Im really happy with them.
    I don't appear to have any shadows and there is significant improvement over the stock halogens I think.
    Its a much more even light and consistent across the beam. There is also a much more defined "kick" on the left side which I like as it lights up the side of the road.
    Ive got a pretty crappy pic of them on close up. Leave it with me to get a few more out on the road.
     

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    LEDs and HIDs are both ticket offences in NSW as they do not comply with standard. To get around that you would have to make sure any light you fit would comply with the ADRs regarding lights. Not something your local engineer can do as it has a lot to do with spread, output direction, colour, aim etc. I could see it taking a lot of money to get signed off for your 2 or 3 hundred dollar lights.
    I have HID in my car but they are not stupid blue, are in projectors, don't blind oncoming vehicles and I don't drive in a way that's going to bring me under attention. If I get busted, I accept Ill have to wear it.
     
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    I've seen the JW leds for sale at autobarn and they offer fitting as well. When I asked if they were legal, they said no. So why do you fit them to road cars? Well its up to the buyer what they do with the car after we fit them.
    nice....
     
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    Just because someone sells you something doesn’t mean they are looking out for your interests. Often companies can behave like drug pushers on street corners o_O

    What’s very wrong is that there are laws covering the sale of certain items but the regulators simply don’t care. Money has to move around after all..
     
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    I suppose its no different than selling blue park lights, pod air filters, blow off valves, plastic racing seats and every other defect on their shelves.
     
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    Exactly.

    But if I bought and Autobarn installed such items and I got a ticket, i’d be returning the products for a full refund and expecting compensation for the ticketcanary costs from Autobarn.

    If i was the one that installed a product which was not clearly and boldly labels as ‘not for road use’, i’d return them and expect the same as above as the products they sell should be well labeled.

    If the products were boldly labeled ‘not for road use’ and I still bought and installed them, then got a ticket/canary, i’d be an idiot and deserve the headache.

    But such products being on shelves is still an example of regulatory failure...
     
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    Awesome, thanks mate!
     
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    Find a nice set of add on HID or LED driving lights with a lens.
     
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    Here are some pics of hi and low beam
    There you go, should be able to work out high and low beam. Neither shot has the fogs on either.
    just for reference, see the cars are close in the low beam shot, the how far away they are in the high beam shot. I had to do that you give you an indication of distance. And they were still lighting up the end of the street no prob
     

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    Good luck with that.
    I bet jax, tyrepower, bob jane have never had to pay anyone back for their too wide/low profile tyres they have fitted. I could imagine the pile of canaries and fines a suspension place must have on their desk just waiting to be paid.
    Its definitely owner responsibility. And so it should be.
    But it was just a comment to show that retailers don't give a jatz what they sell to the unknowing or ignorant. We all should research first as soon as we change anything from standard
     
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    Sheesh, that throw on High Beam is pretty impressive. Low beam looks like you'd expect it to as well.
    No weird shadows down low in front of the car?
    And how long do the lights take to come up to full brightness?

    I wasn't considering doing the high beams, just the low. Might have to reconsider. I'm guessing that flashing the high beam at oncoming drivers to warn of darstardly speedy traps is no longer an option?
     
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    No shadows at all. With the fogs, it fills the front of the car and sides much more, but I look beyond what the fogs put out when I drive anyway. Great for their indented use of lighting up the lane and edge markings.
    The low beam is excellent, it' like one big light.
    They come up pretty quick. First the output comes up, with a blue tinge, then the colour kicks in. I' say no more than 5 seconds. High beam seem to take longer. You can still flash ahead, it' just not as bright. Once they have been on for a while, you don't notice too much of a drop in light when you have to switch between high and low for oncoming cars.
     
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    Awesome! Thanks for the feedback KING46Calais V. :)
     
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    I'd try and educate myself before buying something but if a business provides false or missleading info, they are opening themselves to legal issues under ACL. As such, i doubt there would be any problem in returning a product and getting a full refund - it's ACL.

    In the same token, getting incidental costs (not the correct term but good enough) covered in such instances where a product was missrepresented is also defined within ACL. In this contect, a difficult business owner will likely loose if it's taken as far as a small claims process in small claims court. A smart business owner would know to settle.

    I've had many tell me "good luck with getting them to pay" on a range of problems and and with a range of products. In each case i've prevailed.

    So you can beleive what you like and either try and use ACL to your benefit or take the loss and move on.

    Obviously we all would avoid buying a 'problem' and should all know that a seller hasn't your interest at heart but a busines has to follow laws ;)
     
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    finally got my hid low beams, led high beams, and led parkers installed

    for the hids put the first side in and wasnt sure they were any brighter than the halogens, put the other side in, and much brighter.
    seems i didnt have it clipped in properly on the first side, all good now.


    update: finally got a night time country drive in the car yesterday i can say im very happy.
     
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    Just threw HID lows, high beams and fog lights in plus LED parkers.

    If anyone is giving of doing this, TAKE THE WHEEL OFF! Omg so much faster and simpler then trying to stuff around getting your arm in there with the wheel on

    Edit: Took it out tonight and the lights are fucked - back to the drawing board tomorrow and try to adjust them.

    Edit 2: Fixed them but they still seem high - maybe they're just so much brighter than the OEM halogens.
     
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    Can anyone explain to me why the lens projection is in this formation?

    I assume that it shines brighter on the left but not into oncoming traffic on the right?
     

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    Don’t really understand your question. But that page is telling you to take note of the original light (cutoff) pattern before messing with the lights.

    I still maintain that the Holden, who invested millions in the design of this vehicle knows better than some bloke in his backyard with cheap agtermarket components. If you don’t understand the instructions or the implications of what you’re doing, don’t attempt any work on your car.

    There’s a reason engineers spend years in tertiary education.
     
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