Reaper
Tells it like it is.
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hahahaha then again, if we beat ford in our V8s then im happy lol
Oh and also im sorta disapointed in holden making a V6 TURBO, copying FORD but then again its TWIN so thats good, but would have been happier if it was a V6 SUPERCHARGED as it would be our OWN holden idea, Unlike for stealing the V6TURBO idea from nissan.
AND holden was sorta known for having the bigger L in numbers ( 6.2 ) now they dropped down to 5.5? Like i dono im not gona say anything till im behind the wheel, also a nice stock v8 supercharged would be nice as ford brang out there supercharged 335kw v8
but when i think of it, ford needs a supercharger on there V8 to keep up to our N/A V8
#### DO I LOVE HOLDEN
Holden had a turbo way before Ford bought one out. Nissan motor but Holden did all the R&D bolting the snail on the side. I'd be surprised if they do come out with a turbo V6 myself - they are costly enough on inline motors, packaging and cost is huge on a V motor.
Gees, I wish you guys would get your facts straight about Holden history instead of sprouting off half-correct information.
Nissan didn't "give" Holden anything. Unleaded fuel regulations were due to be introduced in mid 1986 and Holden knew the old black six could not be upgraded effectively to run on unleaded. The Holden engineers had to search the world for a suitable sized engine for the next model Commodore, which was to be called "VL", and was to comply with the unleaded regulations. The RB30 was the most suitable and most cost-effective alternative available at the time (this was around 1983-84). Another alternative that was considered was the Buick V6, but it was considered to be too old to put into a new car, as it had been in production for many years already, and the cost difference between the Nissan and Buick engines was not very much. The Nissan engine had the advantage of being more modern as well.
By the time the VL was released, the exchange rate between the Japanese Yen and the Australian Dollar had altered significantly, to Holden's detriment and the RB30 was no longer the cheap alternative it had been. That's one reason why the VL was the only model to run the Nissan engine. When development of the VN commenced, it was obvious that another engine was required and Holden was forced to go back to the Buick V6 because of the cost and its superior torque characteristics, which better suited the heavier VN.
spot on!
Yeah so the concept is the same :S isnt it ? BOTH STRAIGHT 6 TURBO IN THE END.
As for holden their V6 and when they had supechargers, they were V6 S/C. They could have had V6 Turbo but i believe they wanted to be different. HENCE S/C
Lol - had nothing to do with wanting to be different - was about cost. SC on V6/8 Motors is a ton cheaper, not to mention trying to fit the thing in!
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