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Hi all,
I know there's already a bunch of info on here with regards to the retrofitting a combination of calipers/rotors etc for VE and VF's, but i thought that I'd share all the info in one place, specifically for the Cadillac CTS-V (V2 2009- >) Brembo 6 pot front & 4 pot rear upgrade on a VF/VFII
This is from personal experience of shopping around and buying parts myself, rather than buying a kit from Empire etc.
Firstly, there are a number of routes you can go down to purchase the parts. The USD is pretty strong at the moment, and shipping is a killer, so this is not a cheap upgrade. All parts are available on Amazon, but many retailers are not willing to ship to Australia. You can you a freight forwarding company but I found this to be too expensive to be worth while.
I personally bought from a mixture of EBay, Amazon and locally at Holden and others.
If you, like me, are starting from a bog standard SSV or SS, you will need a complete kit. If you already have a Redline, then you cost will be significantly less.
CALIPERS
I went with silver calipers, as yellow is a little to flash for my taste and red is a lot of extra $$$. You can always paint or powder coat if you want a different colour.
(Parts list is partially stolen from the SS Forum)
- Brembo Caliper Silver (Front left) ACDelco# 172-2487 or GM# 25912477
- Brembo Caliper Silver (Front right) ACDelco# 172-2488 or GM# 25912967
- Brembo Caliper Silver (Rear left) ACDelco# 172-2486 or GM# 25911138
- Brembo Caliper Silver (Rear right) ACDelco#172-2513 or GM# 25911233
- Caliper Pin Kit (Front) need 1 pack ACDelco# 18k2108x or GM# 88875102
- Caliper Pin Kit (Rear) need 1 pack, ACDelco# 18k1970x or GM# 19264180
All standard SS and SSV will require 8 new caliper bolts. (VF Redlines require rear bolts only, VFII Redline already use bolts listed below)
You can buy these from Holden, or, if you have the contacts or savvy, you can get them through your local fastener suppliers.
The bolts for the front 6 pots are Grade 10.9 Tempered steel - M14 x 2.00 x 56.5mm.
- Caliper Bolts (Front) US part number is GM #11570788. Holden Local part number is #92139223
The rear caliper bolts required are again, Grade 10.9 tempered steel - M12 x 1.75 x 45mm.
These are in fact the same bolts used on VE GXP Brembo FRONT calipers
- Caliper Bolts (Rear) US and Holden local part # 11515778
Front caliper
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ROTORS
Rotors are a personal choice. I wanted a stock look, without slots, dimples or being cross drilled. SS Forum list brembo rotors, but they get very exy once you look at currency conversion and shipping. I will list the options for "affordable" rotors.
One thing that made this conversion a pain in the past, was the choice of rear rotors. 355mm and 350mm are too small and require either trimming of the pads, or buying custom pads.... but with the new VFII coming with these Brembo calipers as standard, the options are now much more plentiful.
-Front Rotors - 2009 -> Cadillac CTS -V fitment
Plain - Centric #120.62128 Disc Brake Rotor (Amazon)
Slotted - # DBA42608S (GSL Rallysport)
- Rear Rotors - 2015 -> Holden VFII Redline fitment or Chevrolet SS
Plain (Holden OEM) - #92281427 or ACD# 177-1190
Slotted - DBA42065 AS / BS (custom run by DBA prior to VFII) or DBA42074 LS / RS (now a new DBA catalogue item)
Front Rotors
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PADS
After some (lots) of research and concern over the availability of front pads locally, I discovered that the pads used in the CTS-V are the same as listed below. Compound is of course a personal choice, but listed are the vehicles that use the same pads
Front - Jeep SRT8 6.4 2011 ->
Rear - Jeep SRT8 6.4 2006 ->
Holden Commodore VF II
You can re-use your existing hoses, but if you want maximum performance, you can upgrade to braided hoses. If your fitting the kit yourself, it would also be a good idea to get new copper washers as these are only a few $$.
I know there's already a bunch of info on here with regards to the retrofitting a combination of calipers/rotors etc for VE and VF's, but i thought that I'd share all the info in one place, specifically for the Cadillac CTS-V (V2 2009- >) Brembo 6 pot front & 4 pot rear upgrade on a VF/VFII
This is from personal experience of shopping around and buying parts myself, rather than buying a kit from Empire etc.
Firstly, there are a number of routes you can go down to purchase the parts. The USD is pretty strong at the moment, and shipping is a killer, so this is not a cheap upgrade. All parts are available on Amazon, but many retailers are not willing to ship to Australia. You can you a freight forwarding company but I found this to be too expensive to be worth while.
I personally bought from a mixture of EBay, Amazon and locally at Holden and others.
If you, like me, are starting from a bog standard SSV or SS, you will need a complete kit. If you already have a Redline, then you cost will be significantly less.
CALIPERS
I went with silver calipers, as yellow is a little to flash for my taste and red is a lot of extra $$$. You can always paint or powder coat if you want a different colour.
(Parts list is partially stolen from the SS Forum)
- Brembo Caliper Silver (Front left) ACDelco# 172-2487 or GM# 25912477
- Brembo Caliper Silver (Front right) ACDelco# 172-2488 or GM# 25912967
- Brembo Caliper Silver (Rear left) ACDelco# 172-2486 or GM# 25911138
- Brembo Caliper Silver (Rear right) ACDelco#172-2513 or GM# 25911233
- Caliper Pin Kit (Front) need 1 pack ACDelco# 18k2108x or GM# 88875102
- Caliper Pin Kit (Rear) need 1 pack, ACDelco# 18k1970x or GM# 19264180
All standard SS and SSV will require 8 new caliper bolts. (VF Redlines require rear bolts only, VFII Redline already use bolts listed below)
You can buy these from Holden, or, if you have the contacts or savvy, you can get them through your local fastener suppliers.
The bolts for the front 6 pots are Grade 10.9 Tempered steel - M14 x 2.00 x 56.5mm.
- Caliper Bolts (Front) US part number is GM #11570788. Holden Local part number is #92139223
The rear caliper bolts required are again, Grade 10.9 tempered steel - M12 x 1.75 x 45mm.
These are in fact the same bolts used on VE GXP Brembo FRONT calipers
- Caliper Bolts (Rear) US and Holden local part # 11515778
Front caliper
ROTORS
Rotors are a personal choice. I wanted a stock look, without slots, dimples or being cross drilled. SS Forum list brembo rotors, but they get very exy once you look at currency conversion and shipping. I will list the options for "affordable" rotors.
One thing that made this conversion a pain in the past, was the choice of rear rotors. 355mm and 350mm are too small and require either trimming of the pads, or buying custom pads.... but with the new VFII coming with these Brembo calipers as standard, the options are now much more plentiful.
-Front Rotors - 2009 -> Cadillac CTS -V fitment
Plain - Centric #120.62128 Disc Brake Rotor (Amazon)
Slotted - # DBA42608S (GSL Rallysport)
- Rear Rotors - 2015 -> Holden VFII Redline fitment or Chevrolet SS
Plain (Holden OEM) - #92281427 or ACD# 177-1190
Slotted - DBA42065 AS / BS (custom run by DBA prior to VFII) or DBA42074 LS / RS (now a new DBA catalogue item)
Front Rotors
PADS
After some (lots) of research and concern over the availability of front pads locally, I discovered that the pads used in the CTS-V are the same as listed below. Compound is of course a personal choice, but listed are the vehicles that use the same pads
Front - Jeep SRT8 6.4 2011 ->
Rear - Jeep SRT8 6.4 2006 ->
Holden Commodore VF II
You can re-use your existing hoses, but if you want maximum performance, you can upgrade to braided hoses. If your fitting the kit yourself, it would also be a good idea to get new copper washers as these are only a few $$.
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