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Vf ssv seat bolsters vs calais bolsters(any difference)

Discussion in 'VF Holden Commodore (2013 - 2017)' started by Unicorn, May 1, 2019.

  1. Unicorn

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    Does the Calais have smaller/shorter seat bolsters on the seat base as compared to a ss/ssv?
    I really like my car but the side bolsters are uncomfortable for my fat arse,if I could get different seats which are more comfortable that would be great.
     
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    I think they are the same size/design wise, but are upholstered differently. ie: material and pattern.
     
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    Cheers, was hoping the Calais bolsters were smaller.
     
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    I actually got the impression that in the VF Series 1s, the Calais and Calais V seats were different to the SSVR which had a different type of bolstering as a ‘sports seat’ vs ‘luxury seat’. This would be different again to the SS and Sv6 which had a different material covering and less padding yet still considered a ‘sports seat’, while the SSV had the same sports seat but leather stitching. Please correct me if I’m wrong here - I am going by memory only.

    In the Series 2 I think cost cutting by Holden resulted in the same seats used by the Calais and SSVR with the same leather covers too, though I am unsure if there is any difference in bolstering to the SSV, SS and Sv6.

    I miss the softer padding of my Series 1 Sv6 compared to the hard padding of my Series 2 Calais V.
     
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    This is correct. Series 1 redlines had a much more pronounced side bolster than Calais/Calais V, SS/SSV and indeed series 2 redlines. Have a look on carsales or google images for a comparison. The difference is quite obvious

    I think it was more to do with the inordinate amount of warranty claims due to early deterioration/squashing of the larger bolsters. (essentially cost-cutting in a way I suppose). Shame really, because it's not that difficult (physical hindrances aside) to sit 'over' the bolster rather than 'on' it when entering/exiting.
     
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    Are you sure the extra bolsteryness on SSVR seats wasn't just the MY2013 model year?
    Someone 'round here said they reduced the seat-base bolsters after the first year - unsure of the reason though, whether to reduce costs or reduce warranty claims due to the bolster crushing when you get in & the cheap dinosaur-bones-leather cracking before the end of warranty.
    If MY2014 & MY2015 had different seats to VF2, then there're 3 different types of seat-base used in SSVR's! [I think padding/bolsters, if not trim, was the same between VE2 SSVR & MY2013 VF?]
     
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    You could be right. I looked it up ages ago and that may well be the case. A quick look on carsales seems to show MY14 with the larger ones though. (only looked at a couple however)

    How does series 2 redlines differ from MY14/15?
     
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    I've never owned an SV6, but have sat in plenty and tend to agree. Compared to my Series 2 Calais V they were much more comfortable. Ever considered swapping them out?
     
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    I did contemplate swapping them around but thought otherwise because of my thoughts that they were different seats / seat bases and the electronic tilt and lumbar support of the Calais may have made it more difficult to do this swap. Though if I find an appropriate Series 1 Calais V set of seats, this would be much easier however I have not experienced a Series 1 Calais seat yet.

    I guess the rear seat base would be worth swapping if I can find a decent VF1 Calais - how about those missing cup holders? :p
     
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    I sat in a Redline back in 2013 with the bigger bolsters and found them really uncomfortable just on the test drive. Turned me off the car completely. GTS seats on the other hand, with even bigger bolstering feel roomy and super comfortable. I recently saw a newish Clubsport on carsales with SS seats. Don't know what was going on there.
     
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    That should be the Clubsport R8 Black editions which were the last of the LS3 equipped ones and used the same SSVR seating.

    Have to say nothing probably beats a set of Clubsport or the Limited Edition seats for comfort! :cool:
     
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    True..never thought of that

    yet funnily enough the series 2 CalaisV wagon retained them..
     
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    My E3 Maloo seats are so much better than my Magnum seats, just lack seat heaters...
     
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    That's one area HSV showed evidence of cost-cutting over the years - the seats. Look at the plush (real leather too I believe) seating on some of the earlier models (Coulsons anyone..?) not to mention the model of each car being embroidered on them. They went from that to generic seating across the range in GENF/F2, apart from the track edition (which granted..was cheaper). Even grange scored the standard seating, despite being the luxo model. I know they improved in other areas, but seating is an integral part of everyday driving comfort and experience. They could have done a bit better I think.
     
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    The SV6/SS front seats seem to wear better than the Calais V seats, at least it seems that way when I look at the ones at wreckers or on ebay etc. I'm thinking the seat foams are firmer on SV6/SS. And i note the specs section in my VF series 1 sales catalog shows the SV6/SS/SSV with a black dot next to "sport seats" whereas Calais/Calais V has not available.
     
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    I've just done a bit of a quick look on Carsales. Looks like both the SSVR and SSV of MY13 had the thicker bolstering on the seat base with the difference being the stitching of red vs white. I can see that it got carried forward to MY14 but of 2013 builds, with 2014 builds and onwards having the 'reduced' bolstering.

    The Calais / Calais V seat does not look to have changed in its entire existence. SS and Sv6 have the same suede seats through its existence too. There might be differences to the trained eye in seat contours because of the description Holden provides ("sports seats") but this may also be a reference to the type of seat cushioning used too.
     
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    Having a look on carsales, they all look the same to me :p
     
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    So by the sounds of it the bolsters are chunkier explaining the discomfort im feeling,im sure the Calais I sat in had smaller bolsters but I cant be 100% sure which is why I asked the question,sounds like the seats changed quite a few times over the years.
    Might have to get the tape measure out.
     
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    I wonder how nice the gtsr and w1 seats are...:cool:
     
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    I was going to put up pics but it wouldn’t let me, said I hadn’t added any media yet? What does that mean?
    I measured the highest part of the side bolster and it’s 100mm high measuring from the top of the plastic side cover where the adjusting buttons/levers are. They are higher and a different shape to Calais going by pics. Anyone want to swap Calais front seats for mine ;)
     

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