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Vr Calais no spark

Carnt get spark

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Hey guys just converted my vr Calais to 5 litre came out of a vr stato
And now carnt get spark I've replaced
Dizzy, coil and tested my ignition module on a mates car it's working fine any help would be great
 

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You will need the BCM from the Statesman and the keyhead. Just swap the blade from yours to the Statesman one and use the Statesman BCM and it should go.
 

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Na bcm only controls the key
Car is going now injectors we're stuffed
Put new ones in away it went fired straight up
 

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I thought the Statesman immobilisor was linked through the BCM. Apparently not.
 

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Below is a description of the theft deterrent system from the Holden VS Service Manual FYI. This should clear up any inacuracies in the previous posts:

THEFT DETERRENT SYSTEM - GENERAL INFORMATION

Armed

Once the theft deterrent system is enabled, it can be manually armed in one of two ways:
  • Actively, by pressing the button on the remote coded key (DOORS button on two button remote coded key) or,
  • Passively, as the High Series BCM will automatically arm 30 seconds after the ignition is turned off.
When the system is armed, the start relay (located in the engine compartment relay housing) and the engine management system ECM/PCM are disabled, preventing the engine from being started.

Disarmed
With the system disarmed, the start relay and the engine management ECM/PCM are enabled, allowing the engine to be started when the ignition switch is turned to the run position.

The theft deterrent system can be disarmed by pressing the doors button on the remote coded key. This unlocks the doors, turns the interior dome lamp ON and disarms the system for 30 seconds or, until the remote coded key is inserted into the ignition switch key barrel and turned to the on or run position. This causes the High Series BCM to read a security code serial data output from the remote coded key contact pin via the remote coded key reader assembly.

NOTE: Should the engine not crank when the ignition switch is turned to the START position (ie. due to misaligned or a faulty remote coded key reader) then pressing the button on the remote coded key (DOORS button on two button remote coded key) will also disarm the theft deterrent system.

Operation
When the ignition switch is turned to the on position, the engine management ECM/PCM will request from the High Series BCM permission to start. If the High Series BCM has received the correct security code from the remote coded key, then it will respond by enabling the start relay and giving the ECM/PCM permission to start (this allows the ECM/PCM to enable fuel system control).

If the correct security code is not detected by the High Series BCM within two seconds of the ignition being turned on, the High Series BCM will then monitor for Radio Frequency (RF) signal output from the remote coded key doors button. If the High Series BCM receives the correct RF signal output from the remote coded key, it will then enable the start relay and give the engine management ECM/PCM permission to start. This feature allows engine starting should there be a malfunction with the remote coded key reader assembly.

Should the High Series BCM not receive any communication from the engine management ECM/PCM with the ignition switched on, the High Series BCM will enable the start relay after one second delay. The engine will crank, but will not start as the engine management ECM/PCM has not enabled fuel system control (no fuel is injected).

NOTE: It is very important that the remote coded key reader is aligned correctly with the ignition lock assembly, or misalignment with the remote coded key contact may occur resulting in intermittent or no engine cranking or starting.
 

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But his is a VR, that I thought did the same thing on the Stato but not the sedan.
 

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The vast majority of items from the VR also apply to the VS, but there are a number of differences. The VS Service manuals are supplements to the VR manuals and only contain items that are different to the VR. The theft deterrent system is common to both VR and VS and functions in the same manner. However, the actual BCMs used for VR and VS are different and not interchangeable due to differences in terminal assignments and vehicle wiring.
 

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So the ECU and BCM are only linked from VT onwards then?
 
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