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Discussion in 'VR - VS Holden Commodore (1993 - 1997)' started by VRV6BT1, Mar 22, 2008.

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    G'day.
    I have a v6 vr bt1 with fe2 suspension the front sits really well, but the back sits heaps high (I can fit the palm of my hand between wheel and guard)

    Apparently you can fit a set of rear springs from a camira to the back of the car to level it out, is that a misconception or an actuality,
    If that statement is true then awesome I can go to my local wreckers and grab a set, if this is untrue then is there a set of springs I can put in my rear from another car line, or should I buy king lows or something like that?

    My apoligies about the length of this post but this is am issue I would like to get resolved.

    Thanks.
     
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    Sorry, forgot to mention that I have a solid axle, non irs
     
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    I`d first like to welcome you to JC (newbie) I only joined last month and have found it useful and informative, I hope you get alot out of it and also put alot back in (we really need to start increasing the How - to`s) so welcome aboard.
    At the moment Ive got the same dilema of what to do with the back end of my BT1 5.0 like your`s it sits way to high for my liking and even with the fake SS bodykit back skirt it still shows alot of private parts lol. I would go to the wreckers and ask if you can try them out and maybe leave some collateral
    If they work bargain if they don`t go back ( second hand parts usally don`t have any warrenty) the second option is lows or super lows I`d say this will be the ticket ( though like you I already like the stance at the front) so thirdly talk to pedders about evening out the backend they sould have down at least one buy now.
     
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    Hey whiteknight,
    Thanks for the encouragement.

    As for the howtos, I have nearly finished a ground up rebuild ( replaced drivers side doors and guard after an accident) done the bellmouth, replaced my own ignition, replaced my own fuel pump, filter and injectors.
    I also have a mate that worked for geoff boyd cessnock holden during the vn-vp-vr-vs days.
    I am more than pleased to help anyone, and also contribute to this awesome forum in anyway that I can.
     
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    The camira springs will drop the rear to lower than ultralows man, so it will look absolutely ridiculous.

    I'd suggest getting a full set of King Spring Superlows or something. The rear will be lower than the front with superlows only in the rear and fe2 up front, which is actually illegal and will have negative effects on the handling performance of the car. If you get King Springs lows for the rear, which are meant to be about the same as FE2, it will probably remain the same height as it is now (perhaps even higher as they are new springs vs. 12+ year old springs). So buying a full set of springs is (in my opinion) the best way to try and even the vehicle out.

    If the car is factory FE2, chances are the front springs may have sagged which is why there is such a difference. The car is over a decade old and so are the springs, so having the front springs sag more than the rear is no suprise as that is where most of the weight will be (unless its been used for towing etc.).

    The other option, is to try and get your current rear springs compressed a little so that your current rear springs will sit lower. Or you could visit a suspension place with an ride height in mind (say a centre of rim to guard measurement) and ask them to find a King Spring that will somewhat match that height. This may increase labour costs depending on how much they try to rip you off. The only problem with that is, you're only evening out the ride height... Not the suspension and handling of the car (i.e. different rear springs so different handling/ride characteristics for the rear of the vehicle), which is why I think a full set of springs is best suited.
     
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    front suspension checked.

    I've done a very scientific check of my front suspension.

    read: mate parked his next to mine in a catpark and we checked the height difference with a spirit level ;p

    My friends fe2 springs and shocks are only 2 months old bought from me (ex holden rep).

    There is less than 2mm difference and also my shocks are not that old.

    So as per scientific ;p rationale my front springs are sweet, so I might go see pedders or jax or the like on tuesday and see what they say about the rear.

    Maybe someone has an old set of springs that I could purchase that may sweeten up the rear stance?

    Anyway thanks for the pointers.
     
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    So how does the rear of his car sit in comparison to yours?
     
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    See pedders and get the name of the product they suggest and try and find it on ebay. :thumbsup:
     
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    rear height.

    The rear end in my bt1 sits approx' 4mm lower than shanes, but he has standard v6 sway and associated bits, I am of the belief that the bt1 has a more beefed up sway and linkages both front and rear, is this correct.

    And whiteknight, great minds must think alike, I had already thought of doing that :D
     
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    Would you happen to know how much it would cost me to have my rear springs compressed, also if I buy new springs all round, should I get non progressive, I've heard they stop that bounce associated with old school diff backends.
     
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    The fe2 rear springs in my car arent like yours with the back too high and often they hit the bump stops although I cant hear anything.


    SPECIFICATIONS

    REAR SPRING DETAILS

    .........................................................................TOTAL No........FREE................INSIDE...............PROD.I.D. CODE................SPRING TYPE
    MODELS...............................................................COILS.......LENGTH(mm)....DIAM.(mm)......(Tag on spring)...................& RATE
    V6 or V8 ENGINE - SEDANMODELS - STANDARD SUSP........9.0.......370.................94.0....................XS.......................VARIABLE32.0/43.0 N/mm
    V6 or V8 ENGINE - S/WAGONMODELS - STANDARD SUSP..9.45.......378...............94.0....................XR.......................VARIABLE40.0/46.0 N/mm
    V6 or V8 ENGINE - SEDANMODELS - FE2 SUSPENSION......8.12.......336...............94.0...................XM.......................VARIABLE40.0/52.0 N/mm
    V6 or V8 ENGINE - S/WAGONMODELS - FE2 SUSPENSION..9.30.......364...............94.0...................YB.......................VARIABLE31.8/54.0 N/mm
    V6 or V8 ENGINE - SEDANMODELS - V5W SUSPENSION.....9.30.......368...............94.0...................VL.......................VARIABLE48.8/57.1 N/mm
    V6 or V8 ENGINE - S/WAGONMODELS - V5W SUSP.............9.25.......365...............94.0...................VN.......................LINEAR COIL56.3 N/mm
     
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