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Discussion in 'Car Audio' started by Milquetoast, Aug 16, 2005.

  1. Milquetoast

    Milquetoast I'm gettin' it...

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    Hello all...
    I do believe this is my first post here, so I should qualify for at least three stupid questions before anyone forms an opinion! I have been sent here by a mate who swears by this forum, and from what I have read, he is correct. Y'all seem to know your stuff!

    Okay...

    Dumb question 1:

    I have done about 43 searches on this site and other to see whether or not anyone has a detailed tutuorial on doing a complete install in a VR commodore. I have not found one, so my question is... Does one exist? I found the H/U install post, and am gonna get my H/U in this weekend... but I would love to be able to get all my speakers and amp in as well!
    I am really quite illiterate when it comes to commodores. I have installed a fairly neat unit in my old '87 Magna, but I can't even see a way to get the door trims off of my VR!

    Anyhow, any help in regards to how to get at the pods both front and rear would be fantastic. I would even be happy with a pretentious redirecting to another thread... as long as I can get my fronts and rears installed.

    Thanks.
     
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    First up mate, there are no rear door speakers to my knowledge for the VR. They are in the rear parcel shelf. You will find to interesting catches at the front of the back seat. With your hand in the catch use your knee to push the seat back and lift up. The seat should then come away. Tehn there will be two or three small 10mm(I think) bolts holding the rear back rest in place and the two side cushions if fitted. Pop out the little plastic retainer holding the middle seat belt in place and remove it. You will then find a series of small grey push in clips that need to be removed. Some of them can be pushed out from inside the boot and the rest you will need to lever out by hand. I like to use my wire cutters opened wide and lever them out. Be careful as they do snap easily but can be replaced by the wreckers or your nearest Repco and other such places. Now wrestle the parcel shelf out. and you will see a pair of 6" speakers sitting on brackets mounted up in the air. Drop your new speakers in place and then follow a reversal of the procedure I just gave you.

    Now, the slightly trickier ones. The front door speakers.

    First off, prise out the long plastic cover that sits in the handle (you know the one where people hang onto and scream oh **** and you flick the arse end around?) Inside is two screw. Take em out ;) Next step is removing the little red plastic peice on the door locks. It looks ok, but it holds the snip in place so it must come out. I tend to use a jewellers screwdriver to remove it. Be careful as it does damage easily. Pull of the lock and voila, another bloody screw!

    Now along the bottom of the door(stick your head underneath) you will see three (?) screw that need removing as well.

    Don't forget all the screw that hold the airconditioning vents in place either!

    Now, put on your spandex shorts and lycra body suit and make stupid WWF/WWE wreslter noises and poses and wrestle that door skin off! and hey presto! another speaker! w00t!

    Now, if you want to install a pair of splits (which I recommend as they sound tops!) then you will need to remove the air vents that run along the bottom of the windscreen There is about 3 screw hidden inbetween the vents, pull em out but don't drop them because if want to goto the effort of getting them back.....you will be back here asking for dash removal advice! I think there maybe ONE screw on the sides of the dash holding it in place but I don't think so. Now, lift up the outside edge of the vent and pull it away from the centre of the car and it will pop out quite nicely. On the end of the plastic you will see a "fake" vent. Using a stanley knife slice out the bits of vent that Holden "forgot" too. Behind where that sits, there should either be a screw hole or a little Z bracket. Mount the tweeter onto this and then put the vent back in place and hey presto! You got a fully sick sound system in the sick VR mate thats like fully sick! Ey mate? Yeah mate.

    Oh yeah, under the glove box is flimsy peice of black plastic. I like to remove that and mount the crossovers onto that if I'm installing splits.

    Good Luck and enjoy!
     
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    Very impressive reply 12VK!
     
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    j/k ;)
     
  5. Milquetoast

    Milquetoast I'm gettin' it...

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    Thanks heaps for this. I will set to work when I have a spare couple of hours.

    I assume that this method means that I'll be using the existing speaker wire? Otherwise I thought that I would have to remove the dash anyways to get the power through to the amp and the RCA's running from the H/U to the amp.
     
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    are you just going to use the spacers for the 6x9's?
     
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    6x9s? Where were they mentioned?

    You don't need to remove any part of the dash to run your power cable through. Search the forum for something along the lines "Running power cable in a VS" there was one just recently that was fairly detailed. Remember don't run RCAs beside your power wire.
     
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    they weren't mentioned in the thread. inside info ;)
     
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    Well perhaps they should've been mentioned as that would change my post and add more work ;) Oh well, not my loss
     
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    Milquetoast I'm gettin' it...

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    While frantically searching the forum, I found heaps of stuff that highlighted the difficulties of getting the 6x9's in, so I was either gonna grab some fairly attractive looking spacers from autobarn (they wanted $100 for the things!!!!) or just spring for some 6"s. At this stage, I am more interested in working out whether or not I can do the job. I can't afford to screw it up. I've got some reasonable quotes for install, but I am still looking at getting an SV6 at the end of next year, so I'm in two minds as to whether or not I need a lifetime warranty on a proffessional install. :bang:
    The last thing I need, however, is my car in 739 pieces on the lawn with me standing over the ruins looking for the red wire.
    As I mentioned, VH-Holden and I manhandled the system into an '87 magna... but that was pretty easy. This one has me baffled.
     
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    Have you removed the rear parcel shelf yet? I would suggest that if you are selling the vehicle at the end of the year..... That you spring for some 6"s, this does two things. Makes installation easier into your VS and you can remove them when you sell it and fit them straight into the door of the SV6 should you buy one.
     
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    have you still got the spacers from the magna? could just use them.
     
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    Those spacers are big, black and ugly. The ones at autobarn were the same colour as the trim.

    12Voltking, I haven't had a chance to get right into it yet, but I did get a little wild with the back seat, and I reckon I'd be able to get that part of the process right :thumbsup: . I just gotta wait for a day when I have more than 20 minutes to myself. It's all good and well to make a start, but then I can't be driving around with no back seat for a week until I get some more time to finish the job. Was gonna get stuck into it this Saturday, but now I gotta cook a BBQ for 35 people... not that I mind... without steak, there would be no happiness.
     
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    Milquetoast I'm gettin' it...

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    Wiser words have never been spoken ;)

    Well, I bit the bullet and had a pro install. I didn't go to the generic places because of all the negative talk back they get. I went to a guy who does nothing but audio and other electronics. Paid $270 all up.
    I have been thinking that there are commodores driving around from 1970 that still kick but, so surely with a bit of attention, I could get another three or four years out of the VR before it starts costing me money. With that in mind, I thought I might as well get the stereo put in properly (or in other words, without me breaking anything before realising that I am better suited to working with people as opposed to things).
    They did a respectable job.
    Is there any reason they would leave the 'loud' function off??? I know it's a choice thing, but it surprised me that they would tune the system with the loud function off. Share the load, I reckon! If the H/U can do something, let it!
    Anyhow... now I must work on the body of the beast if I am holding onto it!
    Thanks for your input, BTW!
     
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    did the 6x9's stay? they better have. i liked them, and i think i cut myself when we put them in the magna!!
     
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    Milquetoast I'm gettin' it...

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    Yep... I don't care what anyone says... I reckon 6x9's have a good sound, even if you run them at H.P.F. Sure, you could get a 6" mid range and really poor some $$$ into it, but the 6x9's are fine! Why get rid of something that works just as I want it to? I get great bass and fantastic high end. Not a high-hat gets missed through them, so I don't see the need to get rid of them!
     
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    Ok I do not understand where you are saying to install the tweeters and the crossovers... Please explain... And if u got any pics, or could take some that would be great...
     
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    I was wondering if you could give me an insite as to the difference in installing 6x9's instead of 6's in a VN calais... From what I have read so far removing the parcel shelf looks like it could be similar to the VR. Am I right or completely wrong?

    Thanks
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    Also, I know its the completely wrong section, but when I was trying to work out how to take the parcel shelf out I broke my rear windscreen break light. As I thought to myself that I needed to take that off in order to take the shelf out.

    Anyway, my question is this: does anyone know the correct bulb I need to buy to replace the one that I absolutely smashed to smithereens when trying to take the cover off?

    Thanks guys and gals
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