haydenlee
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- VS Commodore Acclaim, V6 Eco-Tec
Hi there, long time forum reader, first time poster.
This is a fairly long post. I want to be completely thorough.
The gist of it is that VS Acclaim has a low idle, waits to change from N to D and the idle gets lower upon turning the wheel.
If you want to skip reading this and ask me whatever questions you want to get to the bottom of it- I'll answer anything, even if the answers in this massive blurb of writing.
Thanks in advance!
If I lay the problem out as in a story, it might help make it clearer to both you and me. So here it is, chronologically.
- 1997 Holden Commodore VS Acclaim, V6 Eco-Tec
- Problems when bought (A month ago):
- Rough gear changes, a short wait when going from neutral or park to drive or reverse, or from drive to reverse or vice versa.
- Ticking sound coming from what sounds like just in front of the steering wheel. Only there when throttle is applied, gets louder and faster as more throttle is applied. However, even at 100 kmh, when you take your foot off the throttle a bit, to cruise, ticking goes away. Seems to be throttle dependent. Mechanic said could be some sort of 'leak' - did he mean voltage, vacuum, or maybe something else? Doesn't seem to affect performance.
- Slight wait to pick up when throttle applied. Could be plugs or leads, right?
- Disposer mentioned that the engine light would come on sometimes. (I inspected this afterwards- read on!)
- Disposer mentioned that husband 'put some diesel in' and that 'it's ok because we put in the fluid that cleans and repairs' (or words to that effect)
- So, I bought the car $1000 with 7 months Rego when we NEEDED a car was great, got a RWC done (New shocks and interior fixes such as window buttons) and it drove well (aside from the aforementioned problems) for ages. Several three hour drives, some up to seven hour drives, all well. Good fuel consumption, good power.
- Also during this time, we changed the ATF, as the hose came off and spilt the old lot onto the Bruce Highway.
- So, we set off on our 1500 km journey. We fill the car up three times. It runs absolutely perfectly, all the way there. About 10 minutes after the third time we fill up (pretty much at destination), we stop in a lay-by and turn the car off. I turn it back on, and as I turn the wheel, the revs drop too low, the car stalls and the oil light flashes just as it dies.
- I attempt to turn it back on, but it won't turn over. I only try once.
- I, for some reason, come to the conclusion that I should put some more oil in (as the light was on momentarily, I assume that we have a leak and it needs oil to start).
- I spill some as I'm putting it in (D'Oh!).
- The car turns back on, but now with a white smoke that is coming from in front of the drivers seat, underneath the block- it only happens when the engine is revved a bit.
- I tighten the oil filter a tiny bit, and notice that the ignition lead furthest from driver on the drivers side is a little loose. I make sure it's completely tight and start car again. No smoke.
- Could it be that oil has gotten in the plug.....place..... somehow? Or is it more likely that the oil that I spilt was just burning off the engine and had all burnt off?
- No sign of smoke since then, whatsoever.
- Since this one incident (or, more likely, before it, which caused the incident), it has a low/rough idle. It idles at around 500, maybe a bit higher, which goes even lower if i turn the steering wheel (?!)
- The temperature never goes higher than normal, I never get any temperature related warning lights or anything either
- However, the dashboard and just behind the steering wheel seems to get quite a lot of heat coming off it
- ATF is nice and pink and plentiful. Coolant is green, non-milky, completely topped up and perfect. Oil is non-bubbly, clean, seems ok.
- I checked the engine error codes and got:
- Code 15 - Coolant temperature Sensor high voltage
- Code 16 - Coolant temperature Sensor voltage unstable
- Code 44 - RH Oxygen Sensor Lean (O2)
- My next course of action is to:
- Use the Multimeter I have just bought to check the ignition leads
- Check the plugs while I'm at it
- Remove and swap O2 sensors and check if error code changes from RH to LH
What do you guys think?!
P.S. Thanks for reading if you got this far!
This is a fairly long post. I want to be completely thorough.
The gist of it is that VS Acclaim has a low idle, waits to change from N to D and the idle gets lower upon turning the wheel.
If you want to skip reading this and ask me whatever questions you want to get to the bottom of it- I'll answer anything, even if the answers in this massive blurb of writing.
Thanks in advance!
If I lay the problem out as in a story, it might help make it clearer to both you and me. So here it is, chronologically.
- 1997 Holden Commodore VS Acclaim, V6 Eco-Tec
- Problems when bought (A month ago):
- Rough gear changes, a short wait when going from neutral or park to drive or reverse, or from drive to reverse or vice versa.
- Ticking sound coming from what sounds like just in front of the steering wheel. Only there when throttle is applied, gets louder and faster as more throttle is applied. However, even at 100 kmh, when you take your foot off the throttle a bit, to cruise, ticking goes away. Seems to be throttle dependent. Mechanic said could be some sort of 'leak' - did he mean voltage, vacuum, or maybe something else? Doesn't seem to affect performance.
- Slight wait to pick up when throttle applied. Could be plugs or leads, right?
- Disposer mentioned that the engine light would come on sometimes. (I inspected this afterwards- read on!)
- Disposer mentioned that husband 'put some diesel in' and that 'it's ok because we put in the fluid that cleans and repairs' (or words to that effect)
- So, I bought the car $1000 with 7 months Rego when we NEEDED a car was great, got a RWC done (New shocks and interior fixes such as window buttons) and it drove well (aside from the aforementioned problems) for ages. Several three hour drives, some up to seven hour drives, all well. Good fuel consumption, good power.
- Also during this time, we changed the ATF, as the hose came off and spilt the old lot onto the Bruce Highway.
- So, we set off on our 1500 km journey. We fill the car up three times. It runs absolutely perfectly, all the way there. About 10 minutes after the third time we fill up (pretty much at destination), we stop in a lay-by and turn the car off. I turn it back on, and as I turn the wheel, the revs drop too low, the car stalls and the oil light flashes just as it dies.
- I attempt to turn it back on, but it won't turn over. I only try once.
- I, for some reason, come to the conclusion that I should put some more oil in (as the light was on momentarily, I assume that we have a leak and it needs oil to start).
- I spill some as I'm putting it in (D'Oh!).
- The car turns back on, but now with a white smoke that is coming from in front of the drivers seat, underneath the block- it only happens when the engine is revved a bit.
- I tighten the oil filter a tiny bit, and notice that the ignition lead furthest from driver on the drivers side is a little loose. I make sure it's completely tight and start car again. No smoke.
- Could it be that oil has gotten in the plug.....place..... somehow? Or is it more likely that the oil that I spilt was just burning off the engine and had all burnt off?
- No sign of smoke since then, whatsoever.
- Since this one incident (or, more likely, before it, which caused the incident), it has a low/rough idle. It idles at around 500, maybe a bit higher, which goes even lower if i turn the steering wheel (?!)
- The temperature never goes higher than normal, I never get any temperature related warning lights or anything either
- However, the dashboard and just behind the steering wheel seems to get quite a lot of heat coming off it
- ATF is nice and pink and plentiful. Coolant is green, non-milky, completely topped up and perfect. Oil is non-bubbly, clean, seems ok.
- I checked the engine error codes and got:
- Code 15 - Coolant temperature Sensor high voltage
- Code 16 - Coolant temperature Sensor voltage unstable
- Code 44 - RH Oxygen Sensor Lean (O2)
- My next course of action is to:
- Use the Multimeter I have just bought to check the ignition leads
- Check the plugs while I'm at it
- Remove and swap O2 sensors and check if error code changes from RH to LH
What do you guys think?!
P.S. Thanks for reading if you got this far!