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SlapNuts said:
you don't like it then don't drive it. piss off and have a whinge in some other forum.................

Hahahahaha, r u in denial? Or cant u take it the fact that Holden isnt really wat u thought it was......? Im not whinging, just stiring up some sh*t!!!
 

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no not in denial, just not sure if you are aware of the fact that holden did do a lot of re-designing to these cars, they didn't just import them complete and running..................

the way you've put it, it sounds like holden is another acura, which isn't truth
 

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ah, just like the fords were nissan at one stage an toyota were pumpin out holdens.

SO ****IN WHAT!

they r icons in oz an that is y ppl spend thier hard earned to improve them and make em truly ozzie!

**** off piss ant!
 

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I know they did some re-tooling but wat im getting at is the base platform (the shell) the basic idea of the car was not thought of Holden.

They have done jack to any of the small Euro's that they r selling eg Barina aka Corsa, Vectra, Astra, Cruze, Isuzu's Jackeroo, Rodeo. Not sure bout the newer Barina's n stuff but the older 1s when u lift the bonnet it still had the Opel symbol on the rocker cover....... Slack!

The Opel Omega's never looked identical to the VN-VE but the shell was basically the same, the doors n so on. Go back a bit further n the Opel Reckford which is ur VB through VL was basically untouched on the outside. Just a different driveline. The VB's even used the same hubcaps as the Opel Reckford....... U gotta throw the Opel Senators in there as well!!!
 

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these facts i'm aware of, but what about the ute's? and the v8, we sure as hell didn't get them from opel.

the barina? who gives a flying ****?

yes, the commodore started out life as an opel, but then again the fx was a re-tooled chev pretty much body wise so how far do you want to take it?
 

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Thats right. But wat im getting at here is, i want this information to be known, so that all the young bros on here that think that there Commodore is wholey and soley Australian, they may need to think again..!!!

Seems the old 308 couldnt of been such a great design, otherwise why ditch it and use the Chev's?

For sure the 1st FX was actually cut and shut and toyed with chev! The Holden guys got in some dudes from Detroit to help out with the project. SO its deep rooted in Holdens history..... But 90% of the population would think that Holden is this great Australian company that build great Australian cars..... Do they not realise that they have been getting lied to since the 48-215????

Go the Opels!!
 

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but its made in australia, for australian roads.

who cares if it was based on a different vehicle, its still a holden, made in australia, not imported. so they may have used a opel as the base, until we see some chassis shots and more info on the suspension and that, we wont know, so how about you leave the bagging until the facts are there, not just assumptions and theories.

i like the ve, and i dont care if they got ideas from other cars for it, theres no other car in the world that is exactly the same, so it is australias own" car. we all know that just about every car manufacturer outsources parts from anywhere and everywhere, its called cost cutting.
 

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but that's the thing, you could say that about any car maker in oz, but at least holden has had the forethought to re-design and modify their cars so that they aren't as "dinky" as some.
 

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ahh the Opel Rekord.

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hakhawk said:
theres no other car in the world that is exactly the same, so it is australias own" car.

Wait until the yanks take it, put a chev badge on it and call it a Lumina....
 
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