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Discussion in 'VR - VS Holden Commodore (1993 - 1997)' started by losh1971, Jun 19, 2017.

  1. VS 5.0

    VS 5.0 Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes yes, in this instance, not so much.
     
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    so what, now your an expert on how I interpret a post?
     
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    VS 5.0 Well-Known Member

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    lol.....first you like the post where I pointed out the misinterpretation and now you're having a crack.

    I think you've been conversing with old mate Trevor too much.
     
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    I stuck a 202 solid fan on my VS V8.

    Reason, I need to have it running for a brake test and I haven't got my thermo fans sorted yet. So I grabbed the fan off a old 253 my mate had sitting in his shed to get some air flow to the radiator.
     
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    And how many water pumps have you replaced as a result of using rainwater?

    Have you used rainwater in engines reguarly?

    In typical fashion with you, don't answer all the questions, so best you answer them with your next response

    I won't hold you to ransom if I have to replace the water pump on the engine you owe me when you finally replace it
     
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    No I don't use rainwater from steel roofs and tanks as they contain minerals and acids :p, not good for engine cooling systems and bearings. Rainwater from copper roof/tank would be ok to use, no heavy minerals in copper which last for donkey years, just look at the old cathedrals roofs.:)

    I only use 50/50 mix of demineralised water with concentrate coolant and never had an issue or had to replace any water pumps in 3 vehicles in the last 10 plus years .This also prevents the black sludge @losh is getting, most of it comes from mixing brands of different coolants and coolant dissolving after the use by date and not draining :).
     
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    I don't think people in Melbourne would use rainwater to put in their car cooling systems.
     
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    ^most capital city tap water is rather good by world standards (Adelaide water not so good at times).
     
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    Marge the rains are 'ere

    Is this what it is like to be on FB?
     
  10. Trevor loves holden.

    Trevor loves holden. Well-Known Member

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    May be interesting for some.

    WHY YOU SHOULD NEVER USE DISTILLED WATER IN YOUR COOLING SYSTEM

    [​IMG]We get this question all the time when talking to customers on our tech line: What is the best type of water to use in my cooling system?” In this post, we would like to address this topic, as the plethora of misinformation regarding this topic has easily made it the most misunderstood.

    Many people have “heard” that distilled water is the best water to use in a cooling system. This is wrong! While it is certainly true that distilled water’s purity prevents electrolysis and scale/deposit formation, it unfortunately comes with a potentially very damaging side effect.

    During the distillation process, water is vaporized into its gaseous phase, so all its impurities are left behind. These impurities include a number of minerals, including “calcium” and “magnesium,” the two components of water “hardness.” The water is then condensed back into its liquid phase, so the resulting liquid is pure water – in fact, some of the purest water on earth. But the problem is that when water is distilled, or “stripped,” of its minerals and impurities, the resulting solution is composed of chemically imbalanced “ions.” This leaves distilled water “ionically hungry,” so it will actually strip electrons from the metals in a cooling system as it attempts to chemically re-balance itself. As it chemically removes electrons from the metals of cooling system components, distilled water eventually does extreme damage that could lead to cooling system failure.

    So what’s the answer? Softened water. During the water softening process, the same impurities and minerals are removed from water as during the distillation process – but with one very important distinction. Rather than STRIPPING the impurities from water, softening EXCHANGES the impurities with a sodium ion. The resulting solution is chemically and ionically balanced, making softened water very stable, very pure, and non-threatening to cooling system metals.

    There seems to be a perceptual issue with regard to the usage of softened water in cooling systems by auto enthusiasts. Many mistakenly believe that because salt is added to water softeners, then softened water must contain salt, a substance of course known to be very corrosive. Nothing could be further from the truth. The salt you add to a water softener is NaCl, or sodium chloride.

    During the softening process, only the sodium ion is exchanged into the water. Therefore, softened water does NOT contain corrosive salt.

    What are the benefits of using softened water? Soft water lacks most of the impurities of tap water, meaning it far less conductive (i.e. less damage from electrolysis) and will not form deposits (i.e. less possibility of overheating). However, if you use Hy-per Lube Super Coolant, you don’t need to use softened water. Hy-per Lube Super Coolant contains molybdate, a form of the semi-precious metal “molybdenum,” which is proven to be extremely effective in preventing galvanic action and electrolysis – regardless of what type of water is used. Hy-Per Lube Super Coolant also contains polymer dispersants which keep water hardness in solution, thus preventing the formation of insulative scales and deposits. So regardless of whether you use softened water or tap water, you need not worry about these issues when you use Hy-Per Lube Super Coolant. This is actually one of the important benefits of the product, because not everybody has easy access to softened water.

    But please – PLEASE! – do not use distilled water in your automotive cooling system.
     
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    So you've never lived in the bush, as you have previously claimed...

    Common knowledge in the bush...Use rain water in the cooling system...Better than tap water....And out in the bush, you use what is the best to use, with what is available.....And you don't keep demineralised on hand just for cooling systems, nor batteries...

    Oh and I'll be using rain water in my replacement engine you owe me, if you ever replace it....But some how I doubt it, because you are showing you are a rip off scumbag
     
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    By Nulon,

    Is rain water suitable to add with Nulon coolants?


    It is best to use deminalised or deionised water. Uncontaminated rain water is OK but if collected from roofs and gutters it can contain impurites which may affect coolant performance. Metal roofing materials, concrete roof tiles and tanks, dirt and dust, all contaminate rain water. These conatanimants have an adverse effect on your vehicle cooling system.


    What is the difference between soft, demineralised and deionised water?


    Soft water, demineralised and deionised water are terms used to describe water which has low levels of dissolved mineral salts and ions of such metals as calcium, iron, or magnesium


    So After Reading a few factors which Water should we use with coolant???

    Nulon says its safe to use demineralised water, but my last post they say don't use it.
     
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    I come in here wanting VR VS updates, and get a chemistry lesson.

    FFS, take this **** to another thread. I'm tired of the school yard bitching and thread derailment. Healthy debate is one thing, this **** is another level.
     

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