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Discussion in 'VE Holden Commodore (2006 - 2013)' started by White Lion, Nov 10, 2019.

  1. White Lion

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    Dear all
    good morning to you

    my car is v8 2009 6L L98 engine

    before 1 week I changed the oil pressure sensor and the filter but unfortunately the old filter fell inside the engine
    so please advice
    is it danger ?
    do I have to dismantle the head to remove the old filter
    so far I am using the car and engine sound is normal

    kindly advice
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    Which part of the engine did the filter fall into?
     
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    Thank you dear
    Yes it fell in its position below the pressure sensor but can't pull it out and then it fell deep inside
    can't see it
     

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    That looks like the AFM filter basket which should simply pull up and out of the hole under the oil sensor where it lives. Supposed to be a bugger of a location to get too and difficult to see well. There is a tool to make filter basket removal easier but from what i've read most just use a oring seal pick or similar (being careful not to scratch the bore). As i understand, it can't fall into the engine as the hole in the bottom of the bore it lives in is smaller than the basket.

    So the question is did it fall back into the bore under the oil sensor or did you just drop it somewhere around the LIM and didn't se where it went?

    AFM needs clean oil and the filter basket is a secondary mechanism to ensure only clean oil gets to the collapsible lifters. It should be changed but not sure at what intervals.

    This video may give you an idea how it all works (though filter basket is not shown but you should work it out, 0.46 to 0.55).
     
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    Yes dear
    Exactly as seen in this picture
    the filter 100% fall inside and I have installed a new one in its position then changed the oil pressure sensor
     

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    If you check out the video I posted, the underside of the VLOM/LIM doesn’t seem to allow the filter basket to drop anywhere. In any case the VLOM/LIM? sits on the block and the oil passage looks to be smaller than the filter basket so again it cant go anywhere.

    If the old filter basket just fell deeper into the bore and you pushed another new filter basket over it, I’d think at some stage the crushed filter baskets will start to fall apart and let bits of crap get into things it shouldn’t. Best to pull off the oil sensor and have a better look. Getting a borescope of sorts would be helpful and cheap ones that connect to your phone can be found on eBay.

    From what I’ve read, the VLOM/LIM can be removed without removing the heads so worst case is some extra effort is need to pull a few more things apart. But I’d get a cheap borescope first and have a good look ;)
     
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    Thank you so much dear
    I'll get the bore-scope and will try to remove it again
    wish me luck

    thanks a lot
     

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