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What year is your VF with injectors issue?

Discussion in 'VF Holden Commodore (2013 - 2017)' started by Daniel Souza, Jan 30, 2019.

What year is your VF with injectors issue?

  1. 2017

    18.8%
  2. 2016

    25.0%
  3. 2015

    31.3%
  4. 2014

    12.5%
  5. 2013

    12.5%
  1. 426Cuda

    426Cuda SUBLIME!

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    It would make sense that the injector change coincided with the change to drop e85 compatibility with MY2014 of which the model run started October 2013?
     
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    MY14 was still E85. E85 was dropped for either MY15 or series 2, can't remember which.
     
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    Thank you. Yes I just read “the move was made late 2014 with a minor update to the Commodore for cars sold as the 2015 Model Year.”
    That, is more likely the start of the problematic Bosch injector model 02 801582 74 as it ties in with the defective population in the poll / thread reports.
    It would be interesting to confirm if @Wayne001 has a mix of more reliable old and the two new, add hard data confidence to the theory.
     
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    I've seen just as many MY14's as MY16-17 fail.
     
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    Ok thanks, just trying to find a logical break point at which GM started using the new injectors probe to failure.
    Can you provide some more detail?
     
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    I'm told all VF models are potentially affected. This seems to be backed up with the vehicles I've seen through the workshop.

    Haven't seen any VE's though so there must have been a change into VF. I'm told that when revised injectors become available these are likely to be Bosch's boost friendly version of the same injector - the issue seems to be fuel working its way through the plastic body of the injector into the driver circuit causing it to go open circuit.
     
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    I'll join this club now
    stft all over the joint
    no esp on dash
    but below screen shot from torque app says misfire
    2016 model
    30k
     

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    Unlikely to be the same issue. The injector issue is a hard circuit fault and not intermittent. If an injector fails it will log an injector open circuit DTC.
     
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    Check the injectors impedance to confirm if there is an issue. Two misfires is too few events to say there is an issue.
     
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    The issue with the injectors cause intermittent misfires
     
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    An injector failure will cause a misfire but the issue with the injectors will cause a circuit fault DTC to set (as the failure results in an open circuit injector).
     
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    I'll get a multimeter on them tonight

    I have development a rougher idle
    o2 readout are not as consistent
    stft always negative greater than 10%
    something is up
     
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    found the problem
    Holden put my maf on backwards after service yesterday.....
    fuk me dead

    guess it was causing all the issues

    all injectors at 14ohms
     
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    My 2nd injector has failed. now looking at replacing all. 2015 VF2 SSV LS3 the first went last year at about 39000kms, now at 47000kms.
     
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    I bought my SS V Redline in January 2017 so built late 2016. The car has done just under 37K km. Last Saturday engine light came on, service ESP and traction control light on. We scanned it at home and got back a code P0301. We swap the coil and lead from cylinder 1 to cylinder 3 and the same code came up.
    Took it to the dealer this morning and they replaced all 8 injectors under warranty. They confirmed that it was cylinder 1 that had a faulty injector.
    Also I have a mate that owns exactly same car that he bought about 3 months before I purchased mine. The only difference is, his is a manual. He had this issue twice already. I am assuming that the first time they replaced only one injector and second time (last week) they changed all of them. The service manager told me that Holden will be replacing all 8 injectors now if this issue comes up.
     
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    My SSV Redline built and purchased in January 2017 had an injector fail early May. Number 4 injector along with two other high ohm reading injectors had an issue. All injectors were replaced but with same part numbers so the issue could come back. 33k Klms auto sedan. The car was so smooth when I got it back but now starting to idle rough again. I also had very high idle before injectors went.
     
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    I am not that fond of putting the same injector back in. Anyone got thoughts on Deatschwerks injectors for $699? Twice the price of OEM from the U.S. and probably half the price of Holden.
     
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