ive been ripped off by a union, i basically believe they stole my money for 2 years before i pulled the plug on it, i had a dispute with a manager at work, i rang the union to get advice considering i was paying 5.50 a week, (had risen from 3.30 1 year before), the advice i was given was to sort it out myself, that was it, i did sort it out, and a letter was sent to the union the next day..... ontop of that i dont like gillard, i dont like the smugness of rudd, i dont like his policies, i do believe however Howard should have stepped down before the election, if i was only 5 months older i would have put my vote in for liberal, and before you people say anything about high income earners vote liberal, my primary income is not much more than 20k a year in the hand, gotta love apprentice wages and thats third year,:thumbsup: i also believe this stimulus package should be all spent on infrastructure, i.e big road resealing projects, water pipe lines, etc etc, things that will boost AUSTRALIAS economy, the package atm is flawed in the fact that most people will go out and by a plasma and ps3 to which the money will go outside Australia and boost other countries
Because there was nothing better to go to at the time, I put my family first, and dealing with a shitty job while putting a roof over my family's heads was more important. I work in IT, the place I worked at would have just replaced me with someone else, no one seemed to care that he was a bad boss. It isn't always easy just to change jobs on a whim. How hard is it for you to see that there needs to be rules followed on both sides and something or someone needs to make sure those rules are followed. I am not saying the unions are prefect (far from it in fact), but there needs to be a mechanism in place to be fair to both sides, having an employeer with all the leverage is just stupid.
F**k it, can't we all just vote for the legalise marijuana party and just be friends? We'll make like a wicked pad from all our Commodore seats and I'll mod my V8 to punch massive cones and blow them out the exhaust so we can like dutch the whole world maaaaannnnn!
Of course there needs to be a mechanism, but until there is you have to do things out of the ordinary to make your life better. I packed up and switched to an entirely new job, I had mortgages to worry about etc, but I took the leap. Employers deserve all the leverage, after all it is their money and time that have gone into the business, you are only there out of your own requirements. If anything employers have become to soft. The biggest issue with unions is they have priced too many workers and subsequently businesses out of work because of horrific pay rates. I mean really, guys holding a stop/slow sign getting paid 50k+ a year is just a joke. We have been too spoilt for too long. Maybe now wages will settle and workers will get paid a fair wage to do the job, not get paid above and beyond what they really should be paid. I will even say I get paid too much, sure I work my arse off for it, but in reality, its more than I should get, not that I am complaining.
That's all Howards "years of positive growth" for ya! All that money flying about had to end up somewhere!
Sighhhhh!!!!!!!! I have periodically read this thread, but avoided joining in. I have my views, and generally have no chronic need to convince others that I am right. However, having had a couple of stiff whiskies, I have entered the devil's den to comment. IMHO, most people vote for superficial reasons. They are unlikely to put thier vote on the public register because they are not confident to defend their choice. The sigh above has originated from hearing, "I am an economic conservative" so many times during the last election, and then recently reading that the same individual has now blamed the last thirty years of "neo-liberal" (meaning economically conservative) for the global financial meltdown. I have checked the history books (just so dementia could not cloud my judgement), and discovered that "the last thirty years" covers the governments of Howard, Keating, Hawke and Fraser. So the last government that "got it right" was the Whitlam government??????? There seems to be no willingness to admit that the problem oiriginated from Clinton and the Democrats in the USA forcing social engineering on the banking system, i.e. in good Nazi terms, "You vill lend to minorities and the disadvantaged." After being forced to do so, it is no wonder that some bright spark decided to lump these suspect loans with some good ones and on-sell them. Trouble is they all independently discovered this solution and the bad debts spread through the global financial system. There is also no recognition that one GWB foresaw this problem, and attempted to reverse this silly reverse discrimation way back in 2003. However, his desire to fix the problem was blocked by Congress. So even though the loony left initiated the circumstances that generated the problem, they have to audacity to blame the conservative side of politics totally. Now it pains me to admit that I have been unable to erase the memory that I voted for EGW - I must only have forgotten the good bits from my past. I have only been following politics in good old OZ for 42% of the history of this nation - though I seem to remember that Pontius was on my pilot's (pilate's) course. Thus I concede that I do not know it all. However, in my experience, the ALP has been the party that has always given us higher unemployment. There is some agrument about other issues, but the higher unemployment seems a constant. I am embarassed to admit that I voted for EGW back in the dark ages. I would certainly not be able to defend voting for the ALP now. So I understand the meekness of those who did now. I just hope that circumstances do not deteriorate so much that in thirty-five years from now they are as embarassed as I am for their vote.
Have you grasped the idea that giving people money to spend as they like may result on most of it leaving the country? and no there is no guarantee that us purchasing extra chinese product will result in a likewise increase in exports from us to china, which by the way ends up as mining company profits, not a corresponding rise in employment in the mining industry. Arguing that people in retail will earn more, then stimulate the economy is about as sensible as printing more money, or just paying the unemployed to dig holes in the ground and fill them in again.....they have produced nothing. The money needs to be spent responsibly, on our infrastructure.....none of the money will leave the country and it would stimulate jobs here!.
Fekason For you to admit having voted for Whitlam puts you almost in the same age category as me. Hooray - I thought I was alone! 42% of the country's history - I assume you mean since Federation, otherwise you are over 90.
So, in essence, what you're saying is the retail sector has no impact on the economic performance of our country?... Seriously?
Sure it has an impact, but if all they are doing is being a mechanism to pass money out of the country or just to reshuffle our available finances from one person to the other in the community, not a good impact.
i dont think you get my point, SOME of it WILL leave the country, there is nothing you can do about it, sure lets invest just in infrastructure, hang on a sec i hope all the supplies needed are owned and supplied by Australia only or your theory just let money leave the country also. isnt majority of the package is being spent on infrastructure anyway?
