Just Commodores Forum Community

It takes just a moment to join our fantastic community

Register

Who is responsible

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by Dayvo, Nov 30, 2019.

  1. Dayvo

    Dayvo Because i can

    Messages:
    2,414
    Likes Received:
    2,321
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2005
    Location:
    South East,Victoria
    Members Ride:
    VE SV6 Series 2
    Ok a few nights ago this stolen audi driven by a drunk person of "African appearance "slammed into a parked car then over the gutter into a fence just down the road from me . Is is not registered and not insured . The right hand front rim is smashed and tyre has been ripped off . It is on a nature strip right on the corner of a "T " intersection which is a Hazzard. The problem is no one wants to take responsibility of moving it . Who do you think is responsible for moving it ?
    20191128_192321.jpg
     
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2019
  2. figjam

    figjam Donating Member

    Messages:
    1,235
    Likes Received:
    1,241
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Joined:
    May 14, 2013
    Location:
    Port Stephens area.
    Members Ride:
    Monaro CV8, Cross 6 Crewman, Territory Ghia.
    I think you will find ‘nobody’.
    In our area, a car is crashed/abandoned, it gets a sticker and blue tape, then gets windows smashed, then stripped, then burned, then overturned during a period of a few weeks, then disappears. Dunno who takes it, because scrap cars are worth nothing and it costs more to move it to a scrap yard than it is worth.
    Some time ago, a well used car was abandoned near our house, its position make it a very tight squeeze between it and a traffic island. After a few days, somebody (with a 4WD ?) dragged it up the street to less dangerous place. Phone enquiries about it revealed it not the Councils problem. They had a number of complaints about it, but could, or would, do nothing about it. Not the police’s problem.
    And probably not the registered owners problem coz he ‘sold it weeks ago’.
     
    VS_Pete and Dayvo like this.
  3. Fu Manchu

    Fu Manchu Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,686
    Likes Received:
    1,064
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2006
    Location:
    WA
    Members Ride:
    VZ V6
    I would imagine the vehicle should be reported to police. In WA, a big sticker gets put on the window.

    It is on council property being on the verge, so report the vehicle to them as well. Unless it is a busy road and might be main roads (Or similar) owned land.

    if no one does anything, why not get it and sell it for parts to recoup the costs?
     
  4. Calaber

    Calaber Nil Bastardo Carborundum

    Messages:
    4,280
    Likes Received:
    1,258
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2007
    Location:
    Lower Hunter Region NSW
    Members Ride:
    CG Captiva 5 Series 2
    These things vary from state to state. In NSW, council. Places an order for it to be removed within "x" days. Whatever left by that time is removed by council and disposed of according to condition and value. Burnouts to top for recycling, usable wrecks to wreckers or auctioned (I think).
     
  5. keith reed

    keith reed Active Member

    Messages:
    222
    Likes Received:
    202
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2010
    Location:
    Raceview Qld
    Members Ride:
    1983 vh v8 sle 2000 vs v8 ute 2012 ve11 redline
    It must still belong to someone and have some value. I don't know much about Audi's except they aren't cheap, apart from the damage looks to be in reasonable condition. Surely the owner has an interest in getting it back. Sounds strange that it is neither registered or insured.
     
    VS_Pete likes this.
  6. lowandslow

    lowandslow Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,501
    Likes Received:
    221
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2013
    Location:
    NSW
    Members Ride:
    V2 III Monaro
    midnight spares
     
    VS_Pete likes this.
  7. VS_Pete

    VS_Pete Donating Member

    Messages:
    4,414
    Likes Received:
    8,738
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2007
    Location:
    Brisbane
    Members Ride:
    VE II SV6 MY12 SPORTWAGON
    Yes
     
  8. chrisp

    chrisp Active Member

    Messages:
    377
    Likes Received:
    187
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2009
    Location:
    Melbourne Victoria
    Members Ride:
    VF2 MY16 SS Redline Sportwagon
    I had a look at several different Local Council websites. The process is much the same as they all operate under the same State legislation.

    For example, this is what the Moreland council website states...

    514A104C-805F-4891-89A1-EFE6D06842B8.jpeg


    It seems to me that you are in luck that it is unregistered. One council website stated that they impound unregistered cars after two inspections 48 hours apart. (Whereas registered cars need to wait 2 months!)

    Have a look at your local councils website and check their procedures. Report it as an unregistered car to your local council, but you may need to stress that you have checked it’s registration on the VicRoads website and that it is indeed unregistered.
     
    Dayvo and figjam like this.
  9. Skylarking

    Skylarking Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,351
    Likes Received:
    1,028
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2018
    Location:
    Downunder
    Members Ride:
    Commodore Motorsport
    Some low-life can steal your registered car, take the plates off and then dump it somewhere.
    Police don't care as it's got no plates and wont even go out and check it's other identifying info, just handball callers to council.
    Council sit on their hands for a while and after a number of complaints slap on some notice on the side glass.
    After some more days have passed, council will just tow it away and auction it.
    Meanwhile the owner, who has reported their stolen car to police, just wonders where their car is and why it can't be found!

    Alternatively, owner who parks his registered car on the street outside a friends house before going on an extended trip.
    Some shitty problem neigbour reports car as dumped and some months later car is towed by council and auctioned off.
    Owner comes back some months later and can't find his car!

    Sadly neither police or council care to identify who the owner of a seemingly dumped car is or attempt to contact them.
    It all sucks really... on many levels o_O

    If and when the police catch the car thieves, the court takes sympathy on youth of african appearance and their hard luck stories. They are let off with no real punishment :eek: I'd have them flogged for the criminals they are and deported for not being of good character ;)
     
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2019
    ephect, VS 5.0, Tonner Matt and 3 others like this.
  10. figjam

    figjam Donating Member

    Messages:
    1,235
    Likes Received:
    1,241
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Joined:
    May 14, 2013
    Location:
    Port Stephens area.
    Members Ride:
    Monaro CV8, Cross 6 Crewman, Territory Ghia.
    I don't understand how, in these days of all-knowing computers etc, a vehicle cannot be traced via the VIN.
    As @crisp stated, there are procedures and protocols set out, but as @Skylarking stated nobody gives a rats about the situation because they would have to do something that requires a little inconvenient work on their part.
     
  11. JMP

    JMP Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    328
    Likes Received:
    587
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2010
    Location:
    Adelaide
    Members Ride:
    VY 5.7 Berlina
    I would have thought with it being stolen and involved in an accident that the police would be required to impound it while investigating. This happened years ago with a family members hsv that was stolen and involved in an accident, he wasn't allowed to collect it for a few days and it took a lot just for them to allow him to take some personal belongings he needed from the car and he was supervised during that. Perhaps things have changed.
     
  12. Dayvo

    Dayvo Because i can

    Messages:
    2,414
    Likes Received:
    2,321
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2005
    Location:
    South East,Victoria
    Members Ride:
    VE SV6 Series 2
    Knowing my luck i would get busted for dealing in stolen car parts, and not being of "A friggin " appearance would cop the full force of the law. Also i thought that because it still has plates that it could be traced back to the owner.
     
    lmoengnr and VS 5.0 like this.
  13. Crowny

    Crowny Member

    Messages:
    109
    Likes Received:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2011
    Location:
    Carnegie Vic
    Members Ride:
    VZ Executive
    If it was involved in a crash I would have thought that the Police would be required to investigate as several offences have been committed: 1. Drink driving, 2. Stolen Car, 3. Leaving the scene of an accident and possibly others.
     
  14. VS 5.0

    VS 5.0 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,425
    Likes Received:
    4,114
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Location:
    Perth WA
    Members Ride:
    VE SSV Z Series M6
    Fixed it for you.
     
    Skylarking and figjam like this.
  15. lowandslow

    lowandslow Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,501
    Likes Received:
    221
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2013
    Location:
    NSW
    Members Ride:
    V2 III Monaro
    bin the plates, tow it into the shed, ebay all parts that aren't identifiable and scrap the rest when the time comes.
    If you do get busted at least they will tow it away then.
     
  16. Dayvo

    Dayvo Because i can

    Messages:
    2,414
    Likes Received:
    2,321
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2005
    Location:
    South East,Victoria
    Members Ride:
    VE SV6 Series 2
    Noticed this morning that the plates are missing .
     
  17. Calaber

    Calaber Nil Bastardo Carborundum

    Messages:
    4,280
    Likes Received:
    1,258
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2007
    Location:
    Lower Hunter Region NSW
    Members Ride:
    CG Captiva 5 Series 2
    The police will have taken them. From here on its all downhill.
    1. Glass smashed
    2. Doors left open, interior rifled.
    3. Graffiti
    4. Panels kicked in
    5. Burnt out


    Then......it gets taken away to the recyclers, having been reduced in value from 10k to 10c.
     
    wetwork65, VS_Pete and Dayvo like this.
  18. Fu Manchu

    Fu Manchu Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,686
    Likes Received:
    1,064
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2006
    Location:
    WA
    Members Ride:
    VZ V6
    You left out wee'd on.
     
    VS_Pete, Calaber and Smitty like this.
  19. figjam

    figjam Donating Member

    Messages:
    1,235
    Likes Received:
    1,241
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Joined:
    May 14, 2013
    Location:
    Port Stephens area.
    Members Ride:
    Monaro CV8, Cross 6 Crewman, Territory Ghia.
    Taken by the poor, disadvantaged person who crashed it, to be put on his next luxury car selection.
     

Share This Page